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Romney, Santorum tie for Michigan delegates
cnn.com ^ | 2/29/12 | Tom Cohen

Posted on 02/29/2012 3:34:04 PM PST by ColdOne

(CNN) -- Rick Santorum claimed a partial victory Wednesday when final results showed he and Mitt Romney evenly split Michigan' s 30 delegates, even though Romney got more overall votes in the Republican presidential primary Tuesday.

The latest estimates from CNN showed both candidates with 15 Michigan delegates, while Romney was ahead in the popular vote with 41% to Santorum's 38%.

Santorum sought to highlight his strong showing in the state where Romney grew up, ignoring Romney's solid victory in the other primary Tuesday in Arizona.

"This is a huge win for us. Let's play it the way it is -- don't give Romney all the spin," Santorum told reporters in reference to the Michigan results. "We went into his backyard. He spent a fortune -- money he had no intention of spending -- and we came out of there with the same number of delegates."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: freeperheadsexplode; santorum
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1 posted on 02/29/2012 3:34:05 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Some “loss”...


2 posted on 02/29/2012 3:35:23 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ColdOne

Therefore Romney did NOT “win” his home state, and should withdraw from the race - which is exactly what Mittens would be saying if Newt lost Georgia. But Newt will NOT lose Georgia, he will CRUSH Mittens. And thus the double standard continues, as we are spoon fed another establishment loser. what can we do? Organize tea party invasion of Romney events and pelt him with tomoatoes?


3 posted on 02/29/2012 3:37:01 PM PST by montag813
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To: ColdOne
He spent a fortune -- money he had no intention of spending

I guarantee he's done spending money here and intends to do the GOP thing and cede Michigan to Obama. The last republican to make a serious run for Michigan was Reagan.
4 posted on 02/29/2012 3:37:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: montag813
Organize tea party invasion of Romney events and pelt him with tomatoes?

I'm game but Mitt-ercup won't be back to Michigan. He doesn't need us any more.
5 posted on 02/29/2012 3:40:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: montag813
Newt will NOT lose Georgia,

Yes, he will likely get enough of the percentage to take all of the 76 delegates in GA.

6 posted on 02/29/2012 3:40:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: cripplecreek

“We went into his backyard. He spent a fortune — money he had no intention of spending — and we came out of there with the same number of delegates.”

Like JEB Stuart - what a magnificent raid!


7 posted on 02/29/2012 3:43:16 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: ColdOne; All
It hit me today after reading about Newt Teaching a (? more than one) War College.

We are talking someone who knows strategy.

Rick and Mitt were played by Newt.

They were the Iraq - Iran War with no winner and the both got creamed and they don't even know it.

They both proved they can't win over each other let alone Obama.

Ergo enter Stage Right Mr. Newt.

Brillant Freakin' Brilliant, couldn't happen to a couple of nicer guys. That is why quitely today, I have noticed articles, and wispers even from Ingraham that Newt isn't out of it yet. A little CYA after being for the Mitster IMHO...

8 posted on 02/29/2012 3:44:02 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: cripplecreek

“Soldiers: You are about to engage in an enterprise which, to ensure success, imperatively demands at your hands coolness, decision, and bravery; implicit obedience to orders without question or cavil, and the strictest order and sobriety on the march and in bivouac. The destination and extent of this expedition had better be kept to myself than known to you. Suffice it to say, that with the hearty co-operation of officers and men I have not a doubt of its success-a success which will reflect credit in the highest degree upon your arms.”


9 posted on 02/29/2012 3:44:48 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: taildragger

just saw a headline on Fox about Newt rising lol


10 posted on 02/29/2012 3:46:23 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Red Steel

Not hardly.

First, you must win each CD over 50% of the vote to get all 3 delegates. If under 50%, then it is a 2-1 split between first place and second place. This is how 42 of the 76 delegates are allocated accross the state. Newt can win all the CD’s, but it’s highly unlikely he’ll get over 50% in any of them, as current polling shows he is at 40%. The breakout is likely to be Newt 28, Santorum 12, Romney 2

Next, the 31 delegates are allocated based on the statewide vote. If someone gets over 50% statewide, they win them all, otherwise, it is proportional to all candidates getting over 20% of the vote. This is why it was important to note that Romney’s support was slipping under 20% here because he would be shut out of these. It is looking like the distribution would be 40% Newt, 25% Santroum, 20% Romney for a 14-9-8 split. If by some chance Romney fails to make the 20% barrier, it would be an 18-13 split between Romney and Santorum.

Add the 3 Superdelegates that are bound to the statewide result, and Newt gets anywhere from 45-50 delegates, with Santorum getting about 22-27 delegates, and Romney, either 2, or 10 if he breaks 20%.

Am I a Santorum guy? Yes, but my analysis is non-biased. If Newt were going over 50%, I’d say so. Perhaps he might pull it off in a CD or 2, but I don’t see it based on the current polling. That’s not to say it could change.

Interestingly enough, MA has some very strange allocation rules. If someone can get to 15% of the statewide vote, even if Romney wins all 9 CD’s by strong majorities, the 15% guy can walk out with as many as 8 delegates!


11 posted on 02/29/2012 3:57:27 PM PST by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: ColdOne

Here’s hoping Romney’s win over Santorum in Michigan will be like the Battle of Asculum in 279 BC. Although King Pyrrhus of Epirus won the battle and defeated the Romans, his losses were so heavy that afterwards, he said something to the effect, “one more victory like that and we’re goners.”


12 posted on 02/29/2012 3:57:41 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: parksstp

fix on that - 18-13 split between NEWT and Santorum.

Long day, crunching numbers.


13 posted on 02/29/2012 3:59:09 PM PST by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: taildragger

chess versus checkers ... mitt tried to pull a verdun on Newt, and Newt will respond with Midway ... rendevous at Point Luck ... for victory in Tampa and against The Kenyan ...


14 posted on 02/29/2012 4:02:10 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: ColdOne; onyx; conservativejoy; TitansAFC; b9; Mountain Mary

FOX just announced fifteen delegates for each of them.

Who’s good at math. How much did Mitt spend on each delegate? Great commercial!


15 posted on 02/29/2012 4:05:24 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: parksstp

OK, but I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Newt puts some distance between both candidates in Georgia starting now.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 4:07:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If it’s Dunkin D, you got a bet. If it’s that Krispy Krap, you can keep them.


17 posted on 02/29/2012 4:11:53 PM PST by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: ColdOne

That’s not much a victory for the Mitt, is it? We’ll see how things go in WA, OH, TN, OK, etc.


18 posted on 02/29/2012 5:27:17 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: cripplecreek

Correct me if I am wrong, but the demographics in Michigan have changed enormously since Reagan carried the state. I think now money would be better spent trying to flip or firm up places like Iowa, Wisconsin and New Hampshire...possibly Minnesota.


19 posted on 02/29/2012 5:35:52 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: MSF BU

You tell me why the GOP should waste money here.

After all the GOP wave was greater here than anywhere in 2010. We picked up the governors mansion, attorney general, Secretary of state, two conservative supreme court justices, both houses of the legislature, and two US congressmen. The democrats didn’t win a single seat above the county level.


20 posted on 02/29/2012 5:42:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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