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To: ROCKLOBSTER
"There isn't such a thing. "

“The idea that church can have no influence or involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country.”

"Involvement in the operation of the state"

In fact our Constitution is absolutely clear that only the institutions of the President, Congress, USSC and The States should be "involved in the operation of the state".

17 posted on 02/28/2012 9:01:42 PM PST by Mariner (u)
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To: Mariner
In fact our Constitution is absolutely clear that only the institutions of the President, Congress, USSC and The States should be "involved in the operation of the state".

Nope. You missed one. "The People."

And "the people" have very definite opinions that are formed and informed by the church of their choice.

Your assertion is as silly and self serving as the meme that only women can judge women where circumstances are unique to women, or that only veterans are allowed to have any say on what military operations are appropriate.

23 posted on 02/28/2012 9:09:23 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Mariner
In fact our Constitution is absolutely clear that only the institutions of the President, Congress, USSC and The States should be "involved in the operation of the state".

The Constitution limits the federal government...nothing else. It simply states that the federal government cannot establish an official church.

28 posted on 02/28/2012 9:14:37 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Mariner
In fact our Constitution is absolutely clear that only the institutions of the President, Congress, USSC and The States should be "involved in the operation of the state".

You are without a doubt the worst statist I have ever seen on FR.

31 posted on 02/28/2012 9:18:42 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Mariner
In fact our Constitution is absolutely clear that only the institutions of the President, Congress, USSC and The States should be "involved in the operation of the state".

That must be why the 18th Amendment, the Volstead Act, never passed.

97 posted on 02/28/2012 11:56:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Mariner

No so clear as you think. Article VI says that there can be no religious test for office. It does not provide for an established church. But there was nothing to keep Eisenhower from appointing a prominent Mormon leader to his cabinet.


101 posted on 02/29/2012 12:33:04 AM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Mariner

You are confusing Church and church. Santorim plainly meant church - generically, you are implying he meant Church, as an institution. I heard what he said, he did NOT say or mean what you are implying he said or meant.

You have a larger agenda here, obviously.


128 posted on 02/29/2012 1:58:51 PM PST by GilesB
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