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Why Muslim Student Group Concerned the NYPD (MSA)
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Posted on 02/27/2012 8:17:26 AM PST by bayouranger

The Muslim community expressed its outrage this week over a New York Police Department surveillance report from 2006 that the Associated Press reported on Monday. The report disclosed that the NYPD monitored Muslim Students Association (MSA) chapters in the Northeast. The outrage, centered on the perceived violation of privacy, is based on an incorrect presumption that law enforcement had no cause for concern with the MSA.

The organization's history with radical dogma, convicted terrorists and radicalized alumni tell a different story.

NYPD officials visited websites and forums of different MSAs and noted the posted information, all of which was in the public domain. No one hacked into any email accounts or sites as part of the surveillance. A separate story reports that an undercover officer attended a rafting trip with more than a dozen MSA members.

But NYPD officials say critics are off base when they claim the department did something wrong.

"There is no constitutional prohibition against a police department collecting information," city senior counsel Peter Farrell told reporters Thursday.

"What's unconstitutional is if they then use that information to chill someone's First Amendment rights or to impose harm on them."

The AP report chronicles different events that some MSAs held and speakers that chapters hosted on campus and provides some lists of event attendees. The surveillance was intended to track any potential radical speakers or behaviors of the different chapters or individual members.

The report lists six different incidents of monitoring in 2006 at the University of Buffalo, New York University, and Rutgers University. It also lists 12 other MSAs that were tracked, but did not provide "significant information posted to their web sites, forums, blogs and groups."

"Some of the most dangerous Western Al Qaeda-linked/inspired terrorists since 9/11 were radicalized and/or recruited at universities in MSAs," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said as an explanation for the surveillance. "We were focused on radicalization and/or recruitment, specifically by groups like Al Muhajiroun, Islamic Thinkers Society, Revolution Muslim and others."

Criticism of the NYPD surveillance has been swift.

"We believe that the NYPD clearly overstepped its boundaries when it began spying on average American Muslim college students who were simply taking whitewater rafting trips or innocently participating in school activities at their college or university campus," said MSA National President Zahir Latheef.

"University officials may be the last line of defense for Muslim students whose rights were apparently violated by the clearly unconstitutional -- and possibly illegal -- tactics used by the NYPD," Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) spokesperson Ibrahim Hooper said. "The NYPD continues to act as if it is somehow above the law that governs all other individuals and institutions."

Cyrus McGoldrick of CAIR- NY said, "It's very clear that this is not about police work this is about monitoring people based on ideology."

"They're just going out and casting a wide net around a whole community, so they're criminalizing in a way a whole community based on their religion," said CAIR-Connecticut Director Mongi Dhaouadi.

The Rutgers MSA called on the community to "openly condemn the clear violations of the NYPD, who conducted illegitimate profiling outside of their jurisdiction and breached the constitutional rights of an individual."

Leaders Found Trouble

The NYPD has a duty to protect New York City from terrorist attacks. And MSA leaders and members have been convicted of terrorist activities and plots.

The list is extensive, but among the MSA alumni who went on to terrorist involvement are:

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Anwar al-Awlaki, an influential American-born al-Qaida cleric who recruited a series of homegrown jihadists before being killed by a U.S. drone strike; o

Aafia Siddiqui, convicted of attempted murder and assault on U.S. officers and employees in Afghanistan; o

Zachary Chesser, convicted of attempting to provide material support to the Somali terrorist group al-Shabaab and soliciting attacks on "South Park" producers for an episode in which the prophet Muhammad was shown in a bear suit; o

Jesse Morton, convicted with Chesser of threatening the South Park producers with murder; o

Adam Gadahn, an al-Qaida spokesman who is on the FBI's Most Wanted List for treason and material support to al-Qaida; o

Waheed Zaman, who was convicted of plotting to blow up transatlantic flights; o

Adis Medunjanin, who is awaiting trial for plotting to bomb New York subways; o

Ramy Zamzam, who was convicted in Pakistan of conspiring to carry out terrorist attacks; o

Omar Hammami, who was indicted on charges of providing material support to al-Shabbab and is designated by the U.S. Treasury Department for his terrorist connections; o

Muhammad Junaid Babar, who pled guilty to his support to al-Qaida; and o

Syed Hashmi, who pled guilty to providing material support to al-Qaida.

MSA was founded in the United States in 1963 by members of the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood. The Brotherhood seeks a global Islamic state and has spawned leaders of a series of Sunni terrorist groups, including al-Qaida, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

The Muslim Brotherhood motto established by founder Hassan al-Banna is, "God is our objective, the Quran is our Constitution, the Prophet is our leader, jihad is our way, and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."

MSA members remain faithful to Brotherhood ideology. At the closing session of the MSA West conference in January 2011 at UCLA, attendees recited a pledge, "Allah is my lord, Islam is my life, the Quran is my guide, the Sunna is my practice, Jihad is my spirit, righteousness is my character, paradise is my goal. I enjoin what is right, I forbid what is wrong, I will fight against oppression, and I will die to establish Islam."

One student attracted NYPD scrutiny in 2006, the AP report said, after forwarding a promotional posting about a conference in Toronto featuring "highly respected scholars."

But many speakers at the Reviving the Islamic Spirit conference in Toronto had lengthy records of harsh anti-American rhetoric and of trading in conspiracy theories:

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For example, Siraj Wahhaj is a radical imam who was listed as a possible unindicted coconspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing prosecution. During remarks given at his Al-Taqwah mosque in 1995, Wahhaj blasted America as "a garbage can. It's filthy, filthy and sick. This country is taking our children. We're trying to raise them up righteous. And you with your sick, low morals grabbing them, trying to teach a man how to be respectful towards his wife. And you got perversity all over. Wicked filth everywhere." o

Zaid Shakir is lauded by some as a moderate Muslim voice, but his speeches and writing show that he believes America poses "the single greatest threat to world peace." He has suggested the FBI was involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and decried "glaring weaknesses and inconsistencies in the official narrative" about the 9/11 attacks. o

Hamza Yusuf is a founder of the Zaytuna College in California who has called America "one of the most virulent kufars [infidels] that has ever attacked the social body" and says that he believes American culture "revels in" war and violence. o

Another speaker, Tariq Ramadan, is the grandson of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna. He was barred from entering the United States at the time of the conference due to concerns he supported a charity tied to Hamas.

The AP report does allude to Wahhaj's past, noting that he "has attracted the attention of authorities for years." But it offers no context or background on Shakir and Yusuf, simply telling readers that they are "two of the nation's most prominent Muslim scholars."

The Toronto conference previously attracted government concern.

The U.S. Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (CBP) had "reason to believe that certain individuals who were associated with terrorist organizations or activities might pose a danger to the Unites States, or who were associated with organizations that provide financial support to terrorists, would be in attendance at the 2004 RIS conference," a Second Circuit Court of Appeals decision said. CBP was also concerned that the conference "would serve as a possible meeting point for terrorists."

More MSA Radicalism

Last May, the MSA chapter at the University of California, Irvine (known there as the Muslim Student Union or MSU), hosted an event with Amir Mertaban who is a former president of MSA West. During a 2007 conference, Mertaban urged students not to "ever compromise on your Muslim brothers and sisters in which you have no evidence. Osama bin Laden- I don't know this guy. I don't know what he did. I don't know what he said. I don't know what happened. But we defend Muslim brothers and we defend our Muslim sisters to the end. Is that clear?"

That didn't mean people should support terror, he said, but they should never compromise on their faith "Because Islam is a perfect religion."

Invited back in 2011, Mertaban admitted to having supported the Taliban in the 1980s, and refused to condemn the terrorist organization Hamas, claiming that it has done a lot of good in terms of social and political programming. In a subsequent interview with the Investigative Project on Terrorism, Mertaban emphasized that he does not know if Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, refused to recognize Israel as a sovereign nation and said he supports Hamas "freedom fighting missions."

MSA's history and various connections are significant in evaluating the NYPD's surveillance. Mayor Michael Bloomberg defended the action as an important countermeasure to terrorist activity. "Of course, we're going to look at anything that's publicly available, in the public domain. We have an obligation to do so," he said.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne added that "[s]tudents who advertised events or sent emails about regular events should not be worried about a terrorism file being kept on them. NYPD only investigated persons who we had reasonable suspicion to believe might be involved in unlawful activities."

One student who was on the rafting trip understood this. The AP quoted Ali Ahmed saying the NYPD was doing its job. "There's lots of Muslims doing some bad things and it gives a bad name to all of us," he said, "so they have to take their due diligence."

If Ahmed's views represented the MSA, rather than the radical ideas and actions of past leaders, NYPD would lose interest much faster.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: filthykoranimals; islamjihad; moslembrotherhood; msa; muslimbrotherhood; nypd; sourcetitlenoturl

Allah is my lord, Islam is my life, the Quran is my guide, the Sunna is my practice, Jihad is my spirit, righteousness is my character, paradise is my goal. I enjoin what is right, I forbid what is wrong, I will fight against oppression, and I will die to establish Islam."

The list is extensive, but among the MSA alumni who went on to terrorist involvement are:

o

Anwar al-Awlaki, an influential American-born al-Qaida cleric who recruited a series of homegrown jihadists before being killed by a U.S. drone strike; o

Aafia Siddiqui, convicted of attempted murder and assault on U.S. officers and employees in Afghanistan; o

Zachary Chesser, convicted of attempting to provide material support to the Somali terrorist group al-Shabaab and soliciting attacks on "South Park" producers for an episode in which the prophet Muhammad was shown in a bear suit; o

Jesse Morton, convicted with Chesser of threatening the South Park producers with murder; o

Adam Gadahn, an al-Qaida spokesman who is on the FBI's Most Wanted List for treason and material support to al-Qaida; o

Waheed Zaman, who was convicted of plotting to blow up transatlantic flights; o

Adis Medunjanin, who is awaiting trial for plotting to bomb New York subways; o

Ramy Zamzam, who was convicted in Pakistan of conspiring to carry out terrorist attacks; o

Omar Hammami, who was indicted on charges of providing material support to al-Shabbab and is designated by the U.S. Treasury Department for his terrorist connections; o

Muhammad Junaid Babar, who pled guilty to his support to al-Qaida; and o

Syed Hashmi, who pled guilty to providing material support to al-Qaida.

1 posted on 02/27/2012 8:17:32 AM PST by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger

Dear “muslim groups”....ISGAS.

I scarcely give a s***.


2 posted on 02/27/2012 8:23:05 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: bayouranger

NYPD and the FBI broke into the Japanese consulate in Manhattan, late 30s, thus we were able to decipher several important codes through the end of WWII.


3 posted on 02/27/2012 8:30:27 AM PST by onedoug
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To: bayouranger
Why Muslim Student Group Concerned the NYPD

The second word says it all for me.

4 posted on 02/27/2012 8:31:14 AM PST by Roccus
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To: bayouranger

al-Qaeda Youth Corp


5 posted on 02/27/2012 8:37:40 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: Roccus

Exactly.

I don’t CAIR.

Moslems have been attacking humans for 1,400 years.

Somebody call The Avengers.


6 posted on 02/27/2012 8:40:09 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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“NYPD officials visited websites and forums of different MSAs and noted the posted information, all of which was in the public domain.”

So what’s the problem? We teach our kids about posting on the internet, that anyone can see it. These “scholars” haven’t learned that yet? If it’s in the public domain, ANYONE is allowed to view it.


7 posted on 02/27/2012 8:44:48 AM PST by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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To: bayouranger

If you don’t like it go back to the stone ages you came from..


8 posted on 02/27/2012 8:57:51 AM PST by PLD
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The Muslim community expressed its outrage this week over a New York Police Department surveillance...

Oh do they mean the same Muslim community that expressed zero outrage over 911 and zero outrage over the countless attempts by Muslims to blown up planes, people afterwards? The only thing I can find on Google that has “Muslim outrage” and “911” in the same sentence is Muslims expressing outrage over a 911 coloring book.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/09/01/911-coloring-book-sparks-outrage-from-muslim-group/

How many Muslims expressed “outrage” when that Muzzie tried to blown up his car in Times Square a few years back? Oh that’s right, ZERO! And I was looking for it! The only Muslim I ever remember showing anything even remotely resembling compassion after 911 was Yassar Arafat of all people, donating blood, and that’s IT, so here is a big F U to this “Muslim community”.


9 posted on 02/27/2012 9:01:58 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (How ironic that Ann Coulter should write a book called Treason.)
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To: Roccus

If the group is Muslim, it is seditious if not openly treasonous.

Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.


10 posted on 02/27/2012 9:11:12 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Roccus

NYPD doing the job that ALL police departments in this nation should do. Better yet, disband Muslim student groups.

Oops, we have a Constitution don’t we, even if it protects the very group that intends to destroy it?

Catch 22.


11 posted on 02/27/2012 9:14:30 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: bayouranger

Can speak personally about some of this.

The MSA at several NJ Universities and Colleges are extremely radical. SO much so that Westernized Muslim-American students are apprehensive about attending the Universities, and especially about living on campus. The MSA radicals are extremely harsh against Americans they see as heretics, especially Westernized Muslim-American women.

I know personally 2 young women who transferred out of public Universities in NJ due to extended harassment and threats by the radicals in the MSA. I know at least 2 of their friends who also transferred out.

IMHO, Rutgers University MSA is going to eventually produce a domestic terrorist, it has already produced American-born fighters for the KLA against NATO in the Kosovo conflict, and that was 13 years ago, the MSA has gotten much much more radical and increased in member numbers and foreign supported infrastructure since then.


12 posted on 02/27/2012 10:28:58 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: bayouranger

Worthless Saracen bastards.


13 posted on 02/27/2012 11:02:46 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: bayouranger

MSA - sounds like an anti-biotic resistant desease. Oh wait, it is.


14 posted on 02/27/2012 11:27:57 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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