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To: JediJones
I agree with your analogy. This fixation on a candidate who can only talk about moral specifics and has the outright belief that Government needs to be directly influenced by Christian Catholic doctrine, is almost scary.

Santorum sees his popularity as a mandate that his agenda is why he is leading. His arrogant,legalistic nature will only be intensified as he gains delegates. This man is potentially dangerous, who has proclaimed that he will govern from the religious pulpit.

The MSM will band together to stop Santorum, and the gullible, ignorant public will probably follow along. And one thing about Santorum, when he encounters severe opposition or gets caught in his frequent half-truths or outright lies, he gets angry and combative and I don't mean that in a classy, Statesman's sense.

By the time the MSM is done with him, he won't have too many fans left to overlook his many contradictions. Crossing over, just for the sole purpose to keep Romney from winning, is a Trojan Horse, counter psychology move by Santorum worshipers, to trick Newt supporters into giving the momentum to Santorum for Super Tuesday. That's all it is, and it will later doom Newt. I refuse to fall for it.

18 posted on 02/27/2012 6:20:07 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

On 23 August 1984, President Reagan spoke to an ecumenical prayer breakfast in Dallas, Texas.

I believe that faith and religion play a critical role in the political life of our nation — and always has — and that the church — and by that I mean all churches, all denominations — has had a strong influence on the state. And this has worked to our benefit as a nation.

Those who created our country — the Founding Fathers and Mothers — understood that there is a divine order which transcends the human order. They saw the state, in fact, as a form of moral order and felt that the bedrock of moral order is religion.

The Mayflower Compact began with the words, “In the name of God, amen.” The Declaration of Independence appeals to “Nature’s God” and the “Creator” and “the Supreme Judge of the world.” Congress was given a chaplain, and the oaths of office are oaths before God.

James Madison in the Federalist Papers admitted that in the creation of our Republic he perceived the hand of the Almighty. John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, warned that we must never forget the God from whom our blessings flowed.

George Washington referred to religion’s profound and unsurpassed place in the heart of our nation quite directly in his Farewell Address in 1796. Seven years earlier, France had erected a government that was intended to be purely secular. This new government would be grounded on reason rather than the law of God. By 1796 the French Revolution had known the Reign of Terror. . . .

In 1962 the Supreme Court in the New York prayer case banned the compulsory saying of prayers. In 1963 the Court banned the reading of the Bible in our public schools. From that point on, the courts pushed the meaning of the ruling ever outward, so that now our children are not allowed voluntary prayer. We even had to pass a law — we passed a special law in the Congress just a few weeks ago to allow student prayer groups the same access to schoolrooms after classes that a young Marxist society, for example, would already enjoy with no opposition.

The 1962 decision opened the way to a flood of similar suits. Once religion had been made vulnerable, a series of assaults were made in one court after another, on one issue after another. Cases were started to argue against tax-exempt status for churches. Suits were brought to abolish the words “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance and to remove “In God We Trust” from public documents and from our currency.

Today there are those who are fighting to make sure voluntary prayer is not returned to the classrooms. And the frustrating thing for the great majority of Americans who support and understand the special importance of religion in the national life — the frustrating thing is that those who are attacking religion claim they are doing it in the name of tolerance, freedom, and openmindedness. Question: Isn’t the real truth that they are intolerant of religion? [Applause] They refuse to tolerate its importance in our lives.

If all the children of our country studied together all of the many religions in our country, wouldn’t they learn greater tolerance of each other’s beliefs? If children prayed together, would they not understand what they have in common, and would this not, indeed, bring them closer, and is this not to be desired? So, I submit to you that those who claim to be fighting for tolerance on this issue may not be tolerant at all. . . .

There are, these days, many questions on which religious leaders are obliged to offer their moral and theological guidance, and such guidance is a good and necessary thing. To know how a church and its members feel on a public issue expands the parameters of debate. It does not narrow the debate; it expands it.

The truth is, politics and morality are inseparable. And as morality’s foundation is religion, religion and politics are necessarily related. We need religion as a guide. We need it because we are imperfect, and our government needs the church, because only those humble enough to admit they’re sinners can bring to democracy the tolerance it requires in order to survive.

A state is nothing more than a reflection of its citizens; the more decent the citizens, the more decent the state. If you practice a religion, whether you’re Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, or guided by some other faith, then your private life will be influenced by a sense of moral obligation, and so, too, will your public life. One affects the other. The churches of America do not exist by the grace of the state; the churches of America are not mere citizens of the state. The churches of America exist apart; they have their own vantage point, their own authority. Religion is its own realm; it makes its own claims.

We establish no religion in this country, nor will we ever. We command no worship. We mandate no belief. But we poison our society when we remove its theological underpinnings. We court corruption when we leave it bereft of belief. All are free to believe or not believe; all are free to practice a faith or not. But those who believe must be free to speak of and act on their belief, to apply moral teaching to public questions. . . .

Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.


34 posted on 02/27/2012 6:52:16 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

He may get angry but if he does, he’s learned to control outward signs of it.

If anything, he’s almost too cheery and affable when Ape man and Steffi confront him with lies and half truths.

You are siding with Romney if you believe and proclaim that Santorum will impose religious views on the country. He simply proclaims his right to have those views, along with the right of anyone to have whatever religious views they hold.

He is for less government interference in religion as opposed to Obama.

The line you are touting is exactly the line that brought Santorum’s numbers down, I hope temporarily.

Newt is my man but he’s a very long shot at this point.


82 posted on 02/27/2012 8:27:52 AM PST by altura
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