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To: marktwain

Based on the story - the store messed up. I’m disappointed at the rationalizations on this thread. And refusing service to anyone for any reason? That issue has long since been settled. My dad lost his job as manager of the Houston bus terminal because he integrated the building and the restaurant in it in the late 50s.


14 posted on 02/26/2012 6:14:09 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Mercat; All

“And refusing service to anyone for any reason? That issue has long since been settled.”

As I stated, gun stores can get in a lot of trouble for *not* refusing service. People have been jailed and lost their livelihood.

http://www.firearmscoalition.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=603:reese-family-update&catid=19:the-knox-update&Itemid=144

“In contrast, a family in New Mexico has languished in jail for almost six months. They have been denied bail, their assets have been seized, and threatened with civil forfeiture. They have yet to be convicted of anything.”


17 posted on 02/26/2012 6:22:07 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Mercat

I am a gunsmith, FFL holder and gunstore owner. The store did EXACTLY what the BATFE instructs us to do. In any case that there is ANY doubt or the slightest possibility that it is a straw purchase then we are to err on the side of caution and NOT complete the sale. Period.
Your opinion is exactly that, and uninformed.


18 posted on 02/26/2012 6:29:00 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: Mercat
The government should not discriminate. Private individuals (inclusive of the businesses they own) have a right (even if currently unrecognized) to serve or not serve who they wish for any reason they wish, as long as it's a passive act. Businesses are not publicly owned. If you have not right to restrict entry to your property for any reason you wish, you have no propery rights. How would like the current laws to apply to your home?

That issue was set down in 1776, but clearly not settled.

Per this couple, having an FFL obligates the holder (or agent thereof) to prohibit straw purchases. Anything this couple said to indicate that it was a straw purchase (even wife buying for husband) would have put the seller in legal jeopardy, if they completed the sale. Spousel straw purchases are tricky, as a spouse (or any person) can purcase a firearm as a present, so there must be an indication of circumventing a background check, such as, "Hey, we need to put this through on my wife's name, if you know what I mean."

19 posted on 02/26/2012 6:29:05 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Mercat

“Bernard Miller says he was told that’s because another African-American man with the last name Miller, but a different first name, had tried to buy the same gun at a Dick’s Sporting Goods store in Matthews and been denied.”


21 posted on 02/26/2012 6:32:21 AM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: Mercat

And refusing service to anyone for any reason? That issue has long since been settled.”

It isn’t settled. The law requires you to refuse service in various cases. Moreover, no one has a legitimate right to receive service, whether its you, me, or one of Holder’s people.


47 posted on 02/26/2012 7:24:00 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Mercat
And refusing service to anyone for any reason? That issue has long since been settled.

We own a retail store and I can and have refused to sell to people and I'm sure I will again.

Just last week I had some one try and play us against another dealer on pricing. I called the other dealer on the phone confirmed the person was lying and refused to sell to them even though they wanted the original deal. I've already caught them in a lie and I'll be damned if I will sell them anything.

I have to warranty what what I sell.

My store, my stuff, I'll sell or refuse to sell to who ever I want.

51 posted on 02/26/2012 7:34:48 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Mercat

Based on the story - the store messed up.

You really don’t understand strawman gun purchases and liability. I don’t give a rats patoot what your dad did in the 50’s


59 posted on 02/26/2012 7:47:44 AM PST by Figment
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To: Mercat

So you are a second generation liberal?


84 posted on 02/26/2012 12:13:06 PM PST by PAR35
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