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Thus abortion and sexual perversion posing as “marriage” are morality issues and never “rights” issues.

We are conservatives and NOT libertoonians.

Boy, these certainly are difficult threads to post on. Everybody seems to be looking for a “gotcha you’re a gay lover” thing.

I merely responded to a post wondering who Olson was. Regardless, of how anyone on this thread feels, Olson was a Goldwater guy in 1964. That was “Conscience of A Conservative” Goldwater. He worked for Reagan. He was involved in Bush v Gore.

The point I made later in the thread was this background made Olson more credible when he tries to make his arguments to the general public. That is dangerous, because it can influence a significant group of people who may be ambivalent on the subject like many are. That means keep pushing states on anti-gay marriage amendments and keep on the offense. That also means a full-scale anti-Obama attack because the wrong Supreme Court picks can negate all the work done at the state level.

The battle to defend marriage is on three fronts. If one gets lost, it will fail.

Goldwater, book or no book, was no conservative as we understand that term today. He was committed to the legalization of baby-killing and to being an enabler of "gay everything." Goldwater was a circus sideshow posing as a conservative. He got his ass historically kicked because he was generally as much a crackpot in his own ways as is Ron Paul. The conservative movement grew up and passed him by because he always refused to support moral imperatives. A man who bragged about assisting and facilitating the in utero murder of his own grandchild was no conservative whatever he may have hallucinated.

James Baker worked for Reagan as did Howard Baker. Neither was anything vaguely resembling a conservative. In James Baker's case, he was as corrupt as many Demonrat counterparts like Clark Clifford and his only observable purpose for being in politics was to facilitate the special interests which he had always represented as an attorney. Michael Deaver was another non-conservative in Reagan's administration. In fact, Reagan regularly chose his enemies to be high up in his administrations in Sacramento and in DC. It was the living embodiment of Vito Corleone's wisdom: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Whatever Olson may THINK Olson is, his partnership with Al Gore's lawyer David Boies in advocating that somehow the Constitution enshrines sexual perversion posing as "marriage" as an equal right which must be enforced by the states or by the fedcourts, is a suggestion either that neither is capable of reading the actual text of the 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause (rather unlikely) or that they are mutually attempting to pull a professional fast one and get SCOTUS to do for sexual perversion posing as "marriage" what Herod Blackmun and his SCOTUS colleagues did for baby-killing in Roe vs. Wade.

BTW, David Boies was lead counsel for Al Gore in Bush vs. Gore and is a gonzo leftist. The image presented is that Olson allegedly from the Right and Boies surely of the Left are in agreement that there is some sort of constitutional right for Adam's johnson to be roaming Steve's Hershey highway and to call it "marriage" complete with Steve sharing the perks of Adam's employment, Social Security coverage, insurance coverage, Medicare, etc. all funded by OPM as though Steve were an actual wife despite his total lack of qualifying body parts.

The next GOP administration should avoid this sort of embarrassment by naming Jay Sekulow as Solicitor General and we may rest assured that, after he has left office, Sekulow will not be joining some Leftist lawyer to advocate mandatory abortion or the equal rights of the polygamists or of sexual twelvesomes or of those seeking sex with household pets or farm animals or whatever.

Either Gingrich or Santorum, if nominated and elected, can be counted on to do what is necessary.