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To: Linda Frances

“I now am a protestant and am a Santorum backer”

How that?

Santorum: “We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is a shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”


44 posted on 02/19/2012 6:18:24 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
Santorum: “We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is a shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”

He needs to look in his churches front yard and backyard engulfed still with the homosexual and pediphile escapades of it's Priesthood. At least if found in the Protestants faith they act on it or leave their church if they don't.

Santorum is in no place to be "Preacher Man"...and those apart from the faith will not see him in a good light for drumming home matters of faith to a society that hardly adheres to such aside from "lip'service".

47 posted on 02/19/2012 6:22:38 PM PST by caww
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To: Marguerite; Linda Frances; caww
Marguerite wrote: Santorum: “We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is a shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”

....but Marguerite did not provide the link for the full speech this was included in. This was a speech Santorum gave to a Catholic College (I think). Here is the link where the whole speech can be listened to if desired. The Daily Caller

Marguerite, why are you so interested in our elections over here in the US....and why are you consistently all over the Santorum threads, bashing him?
59 posted on 02/19/2012 7:23:33 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Marguerite
This is his whole speech and I agree with him. He sounds more like a protestant than catholic in this speech. He is right because, so many churches have compromised their message. Look at Joel Osteen who said mormons are believers like Christians, or at churches like the methodist who are ordaining gay ministers and saying abortion is ok. Too many churches don't teach right and wrong so they won't lose members. Not all, but way to many. Obamas church claims to be christian and westboro baptist church is a joke. He's right when he says this is a spiritual war, it is. All believers in Christ who stand without compromise are under attack. I believe we should stand together because, Christ's church is under attack.

A speech former Senator Rick Santorum delivered at a Catholic college in 2008 began burning up the left-wing blogosphere Friday afternoon. At Ave Maria University in Naples, Florida, Santorum argued that Satan was using the national debate over abortion as a tool to destroy the institutions of American culture — including universities, the government, popular culture, and mainline Protestant churches.

“This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war at all. This is a spiritual war,” Santorum said during his August 29, 2008 speech. “And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies, Satan, would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country, the United States of America.”

The portion of his remarks that have attracted the most attention — including scorn from the liberal People for the American Way, which identified the university’s podcast of Santorum’s speech on Friday — concern his view that Protestant churches have been compromised by that “spiritual war” over the question of when life begins.

Santorum is a devout Roman Catholic.

“Once the colleges fell, and those who were being educated in our institutions,” he said during the speech, “the next was the church. Now you’d say, ‘Well, wait, the Catholic Church?’ No.”

“We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic, but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic. Sure, the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic. Mainstream, mainline Protestantism.

“And of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is a shambles. It is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it. So they attacked mainline Protestantism, they attacked the Church, and what better way to go after smart people who also believe they’re pious — to use both vanity and pride to go after the Church.”

Santorum also insisted that Satan has cheapened American pop culture.

“The corruption of culture, the corruption of manners, the corruption of decency is now on display,” he said, “whether it’s the NBA or whether it’s a rock concert or whether it’s on a movie set.”

(LISTEN: Santorum’s complete 2008 speech at Ave Maria University)

In 2008 Santorum was on the outside of the presidential race looking in, criticizing then-Senator Barack Obama for telling Pastor Rick Warren during a candidate forum that determining when life begins is “above my pay grade.”

He also slammed then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for telling NBC’s Tom Brokaw on “Meet the Press” that “the doctors of the Church have not been able to make that definition … We don’t know.”

Pelosi described herself during that August 24, 2008 interview as “an ardent, practicing Catholic.”

Santorum, speaking less than a week later, leaned on day-old comments from Bishop Sam Aquila of Fargo, N.D. Catholics who support “so-called abortion rights,” Aquila said, referring to Pelosi, “support a false right, promote a culture of death, and are guided by the ‘Father of Lies.’”

Aquila also said pro-abortion Catholics should refrain from taking Communion at church.

Speaking to Ave Maria University students one day later, Santorum picked up on the bishop’s “Father of Lies” rhetoric.

“That great acidic quality of time corrodes away even the strongest foundations,” Santorum said. “And Satan has done so by attacking the great institutions of America.”

Reached for comment late Friday night, Santorum deputy communications director Matt Beynon referred questions to communications director Hogan Gidley, who was not immediately available.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/18/catholic-santorum-in-2008-protestantism-in-shambles-gone-from-the-world-of-christianity/#ixzz1mt0mWObs

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/18/catholic-santorum-in-2008-protestantism-in-shambles-gone-from-the-world-of-christianity/#ixzz1mt0MuKGs

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/18/catholic-santorum-in-2008-protestantism-in-shambles-gone-from-the-world-of-christianity/#ixzz1mszaPVlh

61 posted on 02/19/2012 7:35:40 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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