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Santorum: Freedoms are at stake in presidential election
The Middletown Journal ^ | 2/17/2012 | Justin McClelland

Posted on 02/17/2012 7:48:38 PM PST by FresnoRobert

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To: Gene Eric

61 posted on 02/18/2012 11:34:53 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: FresnoRobert

Last time I looked at Rick’s website, his Number #1 Issue was Pornography. We shouldn’t have go to his website to find out specifically what he plans to do as President. I actually had a Santorum supporter tell me the other day that we won’t know what those plans are until the General Election. I told him that sounds like “Passing the Bill so we can see what’s in the Bill” That worked out well.


62 posted on 02/18/2012 12:13:32 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: Republican Wildcat

You will see.


63 posted on 02/18/2012 12:18:08 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi

We already are seeing. How does it help Romney for Santorum to defeat him in primaries that Romney would have handily won without Santorum’s actions? How do they help each other by running a barrage of negative ads against each other? Without Santorum Romney would have this thing wrapped up by now.

We have plenty of evidence to prove what you are saying is false, and nothing to support what you are saying is true. Come up with some actual evidence rather than just spreading rumor to support what you are saying.


64 posted on 02/18/2012 12:38:59 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: FresnoRobert

Is he going to go after Homeland inSecurity to only focus on Islamic terrorists and stop sexually molesting us at the airports, spying on us and harassing us? Will he undo the American KGB, Bush, Obama and the Congress has built?

One thing everyone should know about Rick. Conservatives beat him for joining the Rinos in support of Alan Spector. He has expressed resentment towards these “extremists.” That would be most of us. He’s into “social justice.” That includes croney capitalism.


65 posted on 02/18/2012 12:48:19 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: FresnoRobert

14 posted on Friday, February 17, 2012 10:26:53 PM by FresnoRobert: “I believe Rick said he preferred Newt as his Vice President.”

Do you have a link? I’m interested.


66 posted on 02/18/2012 6:51:15 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: conservativejoy
62 posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:13:32 PM by conservativejoy: “I actually had a Santorum supporter tell me the other day that we won’t know what those plans are until the General Election. I told him that sounds like “Passing the Bill so we can see what’s in the Bill” That worked out well.”

That Santorum supporter is an idiot, or at least he says idiotic things. If he's a Freeper and said that here, please link to his post so I can personally tell him that he's damaging his own candidate.

67 posted on 02/18/2012 6:57:51 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

He said it in one of the debates. They asked each who they would potentially support for VP of those on the stage. Rick said Newts views most aligned with his, so it would be him. I just remember him saying it but can’t say which debate it was in.


68 posted on 02/18/2012 7:02:59 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: conservativejoy

It’s pretty easy to find. Sounds like you are not interested in his positions and have your mind made up though.


69 posted on 02/18/2012 7:05:39 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Looks like you are reading a lot into things, I have never seen any statement from Rick that supports crony capitalism. Can you link?


70 posted on 02/18/2012 7:09:55 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: darrellmaurina

Believe it or not it was a local talk radio host. All I asked was what Rick’s Plan for the country was.

Number #1 issue on his website is the War on Pornograhy. That issue won’t be of much interest to folks who are out of work. Newt’s Energy Plan is great, will create thousands of jobs. I like it and the man has no problem telling us his Plan.

I’m just tired of Santorum supporters not being able to answer a simple question.

I’ve listened to Santorum in the debates, read excerpts of his stump speeches, and visited his website. I still would like an answer to the question, “What’s your Plan?” with specifics, please. “This election is about Freedom” is not a Solution to anything, nor is the fact that he is a good family man. Arguably, so is Obama.

If he can’t get the message out even to his supporters, how long do you think it is going to take for Obama’s bunch to eviscerate him?


71 posted on 02/18/2012 7:11:51 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: FresnoRobert

Where can I find his Plan of Action to address our biggest issue, Jobs and the Economy? I don’t waste time with non specifc garbage.

I’m a Newt supporter, for the very reason that he is clear on what he plans to do and the actions he will take. I didn’t have to do research and launch an investigation to find out. He lays it all out for the voters and they can decide if it suits them or not.

I’m not so much interested in Rick’s opinions or positions. I want to know exactly what he proposes to Do to address the huge problems we face. What Actions he will take. What his Plan is. Same thing I would require of anyone wanting to be hired for the highest office in the land.

If Santorum becomes the nominee, it would be nice if we knew what to expect from him. Leadership is going to require more that making speeches. We have a Campaigner in Chief now and he got elected on meaningless speeches and no Plan.


72 posted on 02/18/2012 8:24:46 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

My post on # 56 has a link to his spending cut proposals.

His website lists;

Rick Santorum believes that to have a strong national economy, we must have strong families. America’s government must recognize this and help create a positive pro-family environment for our families, our communities and our businesses. Rick believes we are a land of opportunity where all Americans have the chance to rise on their own merits and hard work. Sadly, President Obama believes just the opposite and using class warfare to divide America.

Rick Santorum is committed to celebrating the family by reviving our economy and creating jobs in America again with a smarter and simpler tax code. Santorum will roll back job-killing regulations, force the federal government to shrink and live within its means by passing a Balanced Budget Amendment and reinvigorate our domestic manufacturing and energy potential. His vision for America is to restore America’s greatness through the promotion of faith, family and freedom.

MADE IN AMERICA: EMPOWERING AMERICAN FAMILIES, BUILDING ECONOMIC FREEDOM
1.Cut and simplify personal income taxes by cutting the number of tax rates to just two - 10% and 28% returning to the Reagan era pro-growth top tax rate
2.Simplify the tax code and reduce middle income taxes by eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)
3.Simplify the tax code, encourage savings and investment and reduce taxes by eliminating the Death Tax
4.Lower the Capital Gains and Dividend tax rates to 12% to spur economic growth and investment
5.Reduce taxes for families by tripling the personal deduction for each child
6.Reduce and simplify taxes for families by eliminating marriage tax penalties throughout the federal tax code
7.Retain deductions for charitable giving, home mortgage interest, healthcare, retirement savings, and children
8.Eliminate the cap on deductions for losses incurred in the sale of a principle residence
9.Cut the corporate income tax rate in half to make our businesses competitive around the world, from 35% to 17.5%
10.Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers – from 35% to 0% - which will spur middle income job creation in the United States and will create a job multiplier effect for workers
11.Spur innovation in America by increasing the Research & Development Tax Credit from 14% to 20% and make it permanent
12.Eliminate the tax on repatriated taxable corporate income – from 35% from 0% - when manufacturers invest in plant and equipment; and reduce the corporate tax rate from 35% to 5.25% on other repatriated income and allow for 100% expensing for new business equipment
13.Repeal and Replace ObamaCare with market based healthcare innovation and competition to improve America and America’s health and create jobs
14.Reduce Federal (non-defense discretionary spending) to 2008 levels through across the board spending cuts;
15.Eliminate all energy and most agriculture subsidies within four years letting the markets work, eliminate resources for job killing radical regulatory approaches at the EPA and refocus its mission on safe and clean water and air and commonsense conservation, eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood and support adoption, reduce funding for the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) for extreme positions undermining economic freedom, eliminate funding for implementation of ObamaCare, and eliminate funding for United Nations organizations that undermine America’s interests
16.Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution capping government spending at 18% of GDP
17.Support Legislation to Reform the Congressional Budget Process and support legislation that requires Congress to pass constitutionally required spending bills or forfeit its members’ pay for the next fiscal year
18.Eliminate all other Obama era regulations with economic impact over $100 million
19.Negotiate 5 Free Trade Agreements and submit to Congress in first year of Presidency
20.Tap into America’s vast domestic energy resources to power our 21st century economy without picking winners and losers so all American families and businesses can have lower energy cost
21.Unleash innovation in telecommunications and Internet consumer options by getting government out of the way which will expand productivity and lower costs
22.Reform Social Security and Medicare for sustainable retirements
23.Block Grant Medicaid, Housing, Job Training, and other social services to the States
24.Freeze current non-defense related federal worker pay levels for a year and reduce federal workforce by at least 10% with no compensatory increase in the contract workforce.
25.Secure our border, streamline the legal immigration process to attract highly skilled talent and entrepreneurs from around the world and reform the agriculture worker program so it works for America’s farmers
26.Reclaim the role of parents as the decision makers in their children’s education and incentivize the states to promote parental choice and quality educational options because the family is the foundation of the economy
27.Promote tort reform and alternatives to litigation for federal policies and programs; and incentivize the states to expand these reforms across our economy
28.Approve the Keystone Pipeline and other job creating initiatives delayed and burdened excessively by government regulation
29.Overturn the National Labor Relations decision preventing Boeing from opening up its airplane factory in South Carolina and prevent other decisions like it
30.Phase out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s government backed role in mortgages and homeownership within five years
31.Audit the Federal Reserve and return it to it’s original purpose – a single charter to only manage inflation
32.Strengthen our national security and national defense so that we are not dependent upon our foes or competitors for critical manufacturing, technology, energy and other security needs

During his time in public office, Senator Santorum was a strong advocate for a family and small business-friendly tax code, serving as the point man to pass the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 that revitalized our economy after the terrorist attacks of 9/11. For his work on reducing the tax burden on all Americans, Senator Santorum has received praise from groups ranging from the Club for Growth to Americans for Tax Reform and the National Federation of Independent Business.

For Energy, his plan is;

America’s energy policy is critical to our national security and economic growth. Dependence upon foreign sources of oil limits our national security options, undermines our interests, and raises the cost of doing business in America. Unfortunately, President’s Obama’s approach has facilitated foreign dependence by restricting oil and gas drilling, making it more difficult to get nuclear permits, and picking winners and losers through failed pet energy projects. We must employ a policy that makes energy more affordable, makes our nation more secure by lessening dependence on unreliable or adversarial foreign sources, and increases conservation through efficient use and diverse energy sources. An effective energy policy will expand economic development and create high-quality jobs, resulting in a strong economy for America’s families and workers. It is time to get serious about unleashing America’s domestic energy sources.

For example, in my home state of Pennsylvania market forces are being used to explore for natural gas. Some experts predict that this exploration will create up to 200,000 jobs by 2020. This has contributed to dramatically lower natural gas prices for consumers, transformed struggling rural communities, created additional revenue for state and local governments, and helped the environment through expanded use of natural gas.

The policies of President Obama have moved us in exactly in the wrong direction. These job killing policies and increased regulatory barriers and burdens have made oil and gas exploration a low priority for America, virtually halting exploration. The President punted on the Keystone Pipeline and opened the door for China. Furthermore, Obamanomics has done nothing to fix a broken and burdensome energy regulatory process and has instead added to the burden. His philosophy and policies only limit growth and development in the energy sector and increase the cost of energy for all Americans. We need a strong energy policy that removes barriers, invigorates the American entrepreneurial spirit that spurs research and innovation, and unleashes a robust energy economy.

Energy independence is more important than ever to ensure our national security. Nations like Venezuela and Iran have threatened to use oil and gas as political and economic weapons by manipulating the marketplace or interrupting supplies. Countries such as Brazil, France, and Canada are creating their own energy independence through energy sources such as biomass, nuclear, and natural gas. Unfortunately, President Obama continues to burden and restrain our energy potential rather than unleash it. That is the job of the private sector and the consumer—not government. We need to tap all energy sources in a responsible fashion to kick-start our economy and preserve our independence and freedom as a nation.

Core Principles
• Create energy security and independence for the U.S. to strengthen our national security and decrease reliance on unreliable and adversarial nations.
• Develop an energy policy that is consistent, uniform, and predictable for long-term economic growth.
•Rely on market forces and private sector research and development capabilities to provide Americans with clean, affordable energy through competition.
•Remove harsh regulatory restrictions on oil and gas research and exploration.
•Expand domestic innovations and energy resources. This includes oil, natural gas, hydro, biomass, wind, solar, clean coal, and nuclear energy.
•Encourage economic growth creating U.S. jobs and bringing us back on the road to growth and opportunity.
•Reduce energy costs for family budgets and business expenses.

Policies
• Remove bans on drilling—both onshore and offshore. This would immediately increase supply, create jobs, and bring revenues to the federal and state governments.
•Continue promoting private sector drilling techniques for natural gas. More than half of U.S. households use natural gas for heat, and a quarter of the nation’s electricity is made from it.
•Eliminate all energy subsidies and tax credits. This will prevent the federal government from picking winners and losers in our effort to unleash all of America’s domestic energy sources.
•Immediately approve the construction of the proposed Keystone XL oil pipeline. Construction of this pipeline would deliver an additional 700,000 to 830,000 barrels of oil per day to the U.S. and would create 20,000 jobs.
•Repeal bureaucratic regulations such as EPA’s greenhouse gas regulations, Utility MACT, Boiler MACT, Cement MACT, the reclassification of coal ash, and any regulation of farm dust.
•Restructure the priorities of the Department of Energy (DOE). The DOE spends an exorbitant amount of money on technologies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions and alternative-energy vehicles. All of these energy sources and technologies are currently available, but they are not yet commercially viable because of burdensome regulations or because they are still prohibitively expensive. It is not the government’s role to force these technologies into the market place


73 posted on 02/18/2012 9:53:57 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: RasterMaster
And here's the effect of your establishment boy-genus...

Specter: Sotomayor’s Support Of Reverse Discrimination ‘Very Sound’

Specter Applauds Sotomayor Pick

Specter Backing Kagan: SCOTUS Nominee Clears Biggest Dem Hurdle

Specter Wins 51-49 Republican Senatorial Primary: live thread

Casey, Specter push health-care reform amendments

Santorum's Shame

Santorum is a humorless Bush reincarnate. He's played the establishment game before. He'll do it again.

Vote for competence, vote for Liberty, vote Newt 2012!!!


74 posted on 02/18/2012 10:12:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: conservativejoy
Beyond what I copied and pasted, his policy proposals align very well with where I am. He espouses many of the same conservative principles we all have, cutting spending, regulations and government regulation. I honestly think that Rick and Newt have a lot of similarities. I like Newt too, I just happen to believe that his negatives will lead to a loss in the general election.

Rick's tax policies are different. His proposals to have two rates and eliminate all but a few deductions makes sense to me. A pure flat tax with no deductions for kids, mortgages and charity would devastate home prices further, kill wonderful charities and hurt families. I like his pro family & middle class attitude. He understands that we are being pressed the most financially.

His tax policy on manufacturing if done right can lead to more jobs in that sector. The US is woefully out of touch regarding tax policy and manufacturing. Other countries have a much lower tax burden. The three components of manufacturing that put us behind are energy costs, labor costs and the tax burden. We can lower energy costs, lower taxes and remove the restrictions that unions burden business with. Rick has the strongest policy on illegal immigration and frankly this is Newt's weakest area. He is for local panels deciding who can stay. That is a little too much like sanctuary cities for my taste. I live in the central valley of California. The illegal problem is a huge burden. They are a burden on our social structure, export much of their income to cousin Jose in Mexico so it leaves the economy and often pay no taxes by performing work for cash.

75 posted on 02/18/2012 10:25:43 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: Gene Eric
So if Newt can't win you will stay home? Newt's record is just as bad if not worse than Rick's. There is NO perfect candidate. Rick was better on global warming, Health-care and TARP. Newt has been a reliable force for government intervention, enlarged scope and control. If you look at their records fairly you will recognize that fact.
76 posted on 02/18/2012 10:33:46 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: FresnoRobert

>> So if Newt can’t win you will stay home?

No. Newt supporters aren’t that childish.

>> Tarp, AGW

And the voting record on these issues will be forthcoming when?

>> Newt has been a reliable force for government intervention, enlarged scope and control.

Yeah, sure.

Your boy there is the big-government statist, not Newt.


77 posted on 02/18/2012 10:54:28 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: FresnoRobert

Still, I am not seeing How he plans to accomplish any of that. On job applications, we typically require an applicant to give us a STAR, Situation, Skill, Action, Result, to demonstrate their competency and that they understand the job they are applying for. Past Performance is key.

Newt seems to do that naturally. I like his tax plan better, and frankly, some of Rick’s Energy plan and tax plan is taken from Newt’s ideas. If he can take those ideas and get them done, good enough.

I’m afraid that we may get to the general election on a shallow foundation made up of “He’s Not Obama” instead of informed voters motivated to go to the polls because they are inspired and confident that the person they are voting for knows How to quickly stop the bleeding and begin the healing. Again, I need to know how Rick intends to do that. Newt’s message on his Day 1 in office is pretty doggone impressive and his past performance is proof he knows how to do it. If Rick doesn’t deliver a great message on why we should vote for him, and stop preaching, voters are going to stay home.

He can’t run on his record in the Senate and make much headway. There is a lot of big government spending there that is not going to sit well with folks. What people have done in the past legislatively, carries more weight than promising to do the exact opposite if they are elected this time. Only Democrats get away with that stuff.

This is the vetting that Palin talks about and all the candidates have to go through it to get better. I find it troubling that Rick lost by such a wide margin in his last race in PA. Unless you have really angered the voters, that is unheard of for an incumbent. I hope he is prepared to explain that better than I’ve heard so far, because it will be an issue in the general election.

Thanks for your post and taking the time to put something out there for folks to weigh.


78 posted on 02/19/2012 2:38:08 AM PST by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

I have been sick of this since Bob Dole and before. I cannot stand the establishment’s willingness not to take BOZ down NOW!


79 posted on 02/19/2012 4:55:20 AM PST by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: conservativejoy
The buzz in PA among GOP insiders is that Rick will gladly accept a ticket with Romney

GOP insiders assumed all along Romney was going to be nominee, sailing through with little competition. What that tells me about GOP insiders is there's quite a delta between what they know and what they THINK they know. With Mitt's PACs unleashing hit pieces on Santorum on a regular basis now, I highly doubt Rick would team up with him.

80 posted on 02/19/2012 5:08:12 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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