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Wesley J. Smith: The killing-for-organs pushers
The Daily Caller ^ | 2/10/12 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 02/11/2012 2:39:32 PM PST by wagglebee

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Since Betty “is no worse off being dead than totally disabled,” they opine, it is no worse “to kill Betty than to totally disable her.” Not only that, but according to the authors, “there is nothing bad about death or killing other than disability or disabling,” and since she is already so debilitated, then nothing wrong is done by harvesting her organs and thus ending her biological existence. And thus, in the space of not quite five pages, killing the innocent ceases to be wrong and the intrinsic dignity of human life is thrown out the window, transforming vulnerable human beings into objectified and exploitable human resources.

This explains perfectly what the culture of death is trying to do to all of humanity.

1 posted on 02/11/2012 2:39:37 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/11/2012 2:40:54 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 02/11/2012 2:42:53 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 02/11/2012 2:44:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Remembering Terri Schiavo . . .

Remember jackals. . . Karma's a bitch!

5 posted on 02/11/2012 2:45:21 PM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Wenn Sie etwas sehen, sagen Sie etwas!)
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To: wagglebee

once you have no problem with killing the unborn... harvesting organs from the infirm is small step

when does it become self defense to protect ones family from those seeking todo them harm?


6 posted on 02/11/2012 2:46:48 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: wagglebee
Amazing how little humans have learned.

Once you posit that you can murder the innocent for the benefit of the living and you can murder based on the inconvenience of location then you have stricken down all law regarding murder.

You can no longer logically condemn any murder.

When you have reached that state then why would it be wrong for governments to murder anyone inconvenient for them. At least under the Nazi's and Stalin they were sufficiently ashamed of their actions to try to keep them hidden. The new breed wants to declare evil good and shout it from the housetops.

7 posted on 02/11/2012 2:53:36 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: wagglebee

Decades ago there was a Quincy episode dealing with this (Quincy was a “medical examiner”...a doctor who works for the police to try to figure out why someone died). In that episode, they raised the question of whether a person was declared dead earlier than necessary, because he was carrying an organ donor card (i.e., it’s critical to harvest organs as soon as possible from a dying person, before they ‘spoil’). They concluded, no, he was allowed to die completely before they went after his organs. While that may have been the conclusion on that episode, I immediately terminated my organ-donor check box on my driver’s license.


8 posted on 02/11/2012 3:01:37 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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These organ “donor” organizations harass families at the hospital so they can make big $$ off the organs from their loved ones. Nothing more than typical leftist culture of death.


9 posted on 02/11/2012 3:06:25 PM PST by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-XXX= Now what? Cain?XX Guess not. I GIVE UP)
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“These organ “donor” organizations harass families at the hospital so they can make big $$ off the organs from their loved ones. Nothing more than typical leftist culture of death.”

I had no clue, but not surprised. Appreciate you giving me the heads up.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 3:11:49 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: wagglebee
That's why they want us all to be wards of the state, so they can decide what's "best" for all of us.
We know what it will lead to eventually, the political class will somehow get an unrestricted supply of replacement organs from those judged to be infirm, useless, criminal or inconvenient.

11 posted on 02/11/2012 3:16:53 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: wagglebee

Just interested. So if a person has been in an automobile accident, and the paramedics put that person on life support at the scene, is then later determined there is no brain activity and the person will die if removed, life support is removed and organs are harvested, is this considered euthanasia?


12 posted on 02/11/2012 3:18:14 PM PST by Toespi
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There would be no organ waiting lists if it were legal for donors and their heirs to be compensated for organs provided for transplant.


13 posted on 02/11/2012 3:26:57 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Toespi

I think you will find life support is not pulled before the organs are harvested. The organs they want most need the blood flowing to them.

As far as selling one’s organs. It would be disasterous. The poor would go first and granny would be expected to go next to save any inheritance.


14 posted on 02/11/2012 3:35:14 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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It’s simply cannibalism.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 3:40:02 PM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: Snoopers-868th

My husband was given a heart transplant 18 months ago. He was dying, they had done all they could do. He was then placed on the list a1 status.
We are not wealthy, we have no connections. We prayed and God gave us his answer. Every day we are grateful to the donor for having the courage to be a donor. We know very little about the circumstances of his or her death, we just know there was a brain death. Rather than a vital organ being disposed of at death, it gave life. Our family s once again whole and we are truly blessed. I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this was a gift from God.


16 posted on 02/11/2012 3:50:47 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.

My belief is this is the ultimate redistribution program. I question if this is God’s intention.


17 posted on 02/11/2012 3:59:29 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: wagglebee

Wait until new organs can actually extend a person’s life beyond a normal lifespan. Larry Niven talked about this in some of his sci-fi, and not in a good way. From wiki:

“...the problem led to a repressive society almost unrecognizable by today’s standards. Since the average citizens wished to extend their lives, the world government sought to increase the supply by using condemned criminals to supply the organ banks. When this failed to meet the demand, citizens would vote for the death penalty for more and more trivial crimes. First violent crimes, then theft, tax evasion, false advertising, and even traffic violations became punishable by the organ banks.”

He was talking about “organ legging” back in the late 60’s.

Freegards


18 posted on 02/11/2012 4:16:56 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: sten

Has anybody read all the pages (thousands) of obamacare..............or are there more surprises????


19 posted on 02/11/2012 4:42:17 PM PST by tankrlm
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To: wagglebee
The concept of "brain death" was invented to justify harvesting organs while the heart was still beating and the lungs were still working. There is no empirical justification for the concept.

Dr. Frankenstein is still alive and works for the National Institutes of Health.

20 posted on 02/11/2012 5:31:25 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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