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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Hague Convention.

US does allow parents to relinquish their children’s citizenship and when it is done it IS recognized by the US.

It is true that a child does not lose their RIGHT to reclaim this citizenship if they so choice when they reach majority. Indonesian law did not recogize dual citizens. When SAD marries Lolo Soetoro AND moves to Indonesia the Indonesian government considers her and her child citizens of Indonesia. With the 1965 marriage when Obama was only 3 years old and the action of removing Obama from her US passport in 1968 when he was only 6 or 7 SAD is admitting - he is not a US citizen.

She had to do that for his own safety in Indonesia. It was done in 1968 - right after her and Obama II moved to Indonesia.

Indonesian law allows for a child to renounce their citizenship when the child is adopted. One of those laws is when a natural father reclaims their natural son. And that is what happened in December 1971.

Getting back to 1961 in the records is likely difficult. It is likely difficult for the Hawaiian officials. Assuming Obama changed identity/guardianship/citizenship at various times the records are likely seal, spun and mutilated. The wormhole of 1971 probably results in sealed records - meaning no one has really seen the ‘original’ BC for a long, long time.


54 posted on 02/08/2012 6:57:25 PM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6
US does allow parents to relinquish their children’s citizenship and when it is done it IS recognized by the US.

The State Department (as well as the Immigration and Nationality Act) disagrees.

It doesn't matter if Indonesia recognizes dual citizenship, since U.S. law governs U.S. citizenship. Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act specifies several ways that a U.S. citizen can lose citizenship. All of them require an intent on the part of the citizen to renounce citizenship, and most require that the citizen be at least 18 years old. The only way a minor citizen can lose citizenship is by making a formal declaration of renunciation.

57 posted on 02/08/2012 7:38:30 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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