Posted on 01/23/2012 7:08:17 PM PST by RedRover
So has the JAG Reservist’s name been released? I’d like to know who to avoid in any future encounters on deployments!
Thanks for the ping Red. Hopefully the judge will take into consideration the three little girls. This Marine has gone through enough at this point.
Yes indeed, the enemy were using the women and children as shields.
I want president Newt to set aside whatever sentence this marine receives.
“Our Country won’t go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won’t be any AMERICA because some foreign soldier will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race!” Chesty Puller
Too bad he was not around to testify FOR this good man. Chesty would have ripped the prosecutors a new one.
...At risk if he is incarcerated are his three little girls, who are otherwise without a resident parent...
It's sad he had to plead out, but he has his priorities in order, just as he did in Haditha.
The bureaucrats get their scapegoat, but not to the extent they wanted. While civilian control of the armed forces is a good idea, it also tends to impose "values" that are anthema to what the military does.
I’m hoping the judge will see that SSgt Wuterich has more than paid any debt of incarceration by being kept by order at Pendleton for 6 years or so.
I’m hoping he’ll also see that taking the pay of single father with 3 kids is also overkill, since SSgt Wuterich has paid far more in cash and broken family defending himself successfully against far more serious charges.
If anything, I’d accept some kind of community service hours and an administrative separation from service under honorable conditions, at worst ‘general under honorable’.
I would then appeal (even to this president) for a presidential pardon.
Agreed, xzins. The hearing today may go all morning so it’s hard to predict when we’ll know the sentence. Prayers for wisdom.
Amen to your prayers, Red. It’s been great knowing you over these many years.
Very much likewise, chaplain. A desire to see right prevail motivated us all. But I think it was really the friendships that kept us going all these years.
I agree. The friendships and unity of effort made this meaningful.
I too listened to the interview with Siegel and McGirk. Siegel was clueless as to the circumstances of SSgt Wuterich. I thought lawyers knew better than to ask or answer questions when they don’t know the correct response. Shows how this Haditha investigation was handled from the beginning.
Now to what I really want to respond to. TIM McGIRK. NO, we don’t owe any apologies to the Iraqis. Yes , civilian losses are tragic. Yes, civilian losses should be avoided. THIS WAS WAR. “War is often a prolonged conflict typified by extreme aggression, social disruption and usually high mortality.” Politicians don’t fight wars, our armed forces fight the wars, pay the ultimate price and sacrifice their tomorrows to keep AMERICA safe. Our Haditha Marines did what they were trained to do..and above all else they followed NUMBER ONE on the ROE. (no matter how many times the politicos want to change them) Marines can use deadly force to protect themselves and other Marines.
How innocent were the civilians of Haditha on November 19, 2005????? Now may be the time for 65 NCIS agents to re-enter Haditha and ask the questions that still go unanswered. Safa Younis is now 16 years old. Now may be the time to ask her why she didn’t go to school that day. Why she covered her ears to avoid the concussion of the IED blast. How did she know the bomb would be exploded? The NCIS botched this investigation from the beginning.
Our prayers and God’s blessings to SSgt Frank and the Wuterich family. Rosemarie and David, you fought the good fight. . Frank and his three girls will be in our thoughts and prayers forever. Our Haditha Marines fought the good fight. Americans remain safe because of the deeds and sacrifices of these Marines.
God Bless Our Haditha Marines
The Sharratt Family
Very well said. God bless our Haditha Marines.
UPDATE:
SSGT WUTERICH is set to be sentenced Tuesday afternoon, following closing arguments.
"For six years I have had to accept that my name will always be associated with a massacre, with being a cold-blooded baby killer, an 'out-of-control' monster and a conspiring liar," he said. "There's nothing I can do about whoever believes those things. All I can do is continue to be who I've always been ---- me. And none of those labels have ever been, or will ever be, who I am."
There is nothing in "bomb that house" that isn't every bit the same in meaning AND INTENT as "shoot first, questions later".
The infantry is charged with murder and the air support is given a medal.
And at Haditha that day, air support would have been given a medal.
From first to last this was a political witch hunt all about positioning a political party for an upcoming election. Because of that the combat innocent lives of members of a Marine unit have been forever scarred.
Our rulers have taken their pound of flesh from a man, who at the time was a 25 year old buck sergeant (if Marines use that term), and they have accomplished their unpatriotic act through a nickel and dime picking at the phrase "shoot first, questions later" spoken on a battlefield when receiving fire and in fear for their very lives.
I despise them, and Sullivan, and Mathis(sp), and every general and politician who had a chance to put an end to this fiasco, but didn't have the guts. It is THEIR acts that are shameful and a discredit to the Marines especially, but also to every serviceman and woman who has ever worn the uniform of any of our services.
Continued blessings on you and yours, Darryl. May God bless the United States of America.
Called to the stand as a character witness on Tuesday, Jeffrey Dinsmore, an intelligence officer with Wuterich’s battalion at the time of the killings, said “insurgent groups ... had complete control over the city (of Haditha) at the time” and the unit had received word that an ambush was likely.
He also said insurgents were known to commandeer homes as places to launch attacks and to deliberately use civilians as human shields.
More.....
In his statement on Tuesday, Wuterich, directed an apology to family members of those killed in Iraq, he said, “words cannot express my sorrow for the loss of your loved ones.” But he insisted civilians were not singled out for attack.
“The truth is, I don’t believe anyone in my squad ... behaved in any way that was dishonorable or contrary to the highest ideals that we all live by as Marines,” he said. “But even with the best intentions, sometimes combat actions can cause tragic results.”
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In a final plea for leniency, his civilian defense lawyer, Neal Puckett, said his client “is not evil.”
“He is decent and moral, and his integrity is unfaltering,” Puckett said. “He knows that his Marine Corps career has come to an end.”
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