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1 posted on 01/22/2012 4:48:08 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
Slave labor is so much more convenient than that of a free people.
2 posted on 01/22/2012 4:49:22 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
But as Steven P. Jobs of Apple spoke, President Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: what would it take to make iPhones in the United States?

There are times when I think Obama is some sort of evil genius who knows exactly what he is doing to try and destroy this nation.

And then I read a statement like this that makes Joe Biden look like Aristotle by comparison. Good grief. Has there ever been a dumber question coming from a president?

3 posted on 01/22/2012 4:51:44 PM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: Vince Ferrer
President Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: what would it take to make iPhones in the United States?

OMG. Steve Job's "reality distortion field" meets Obamas.

Did Steve Jobs faint?

Did he say, "Sorry, union labor can't compete?"

Doubt that very much.

4 posted on 01/22/2012 4:51:56 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I’m not logging in to NYT...


5 posted on 01/22/2012 4:52:27 PM PST by null and void (Day 1097 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Vince Ferrer

Why post an article I can’t access .....?

I must sign in to the NYT to read the article


7 posted on 01/22/2012 4:53:52 PM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Sure, electronics would be real competative with union labor rates, massive oppressive regulations, the highest and the corporate tax rate in the free world. Everyone would want a $5,000 IPhone.


10 posted on 01/22/2012 4:55:40 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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11 posted on 01/22/2012 4:56:07 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmit. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Vince Ferrer
So long as iPhones are not made within the United States, Apple has complete control over the price for the phones. If they were made here, then others could import greymarket phones from overseas and undercut the Apple approved price.

The Costco/Omega decision is why iPhones or any Apple product will never be made in the US again. This is also how Apple killed the clone makers who'd purchase legal Apple roms and Apple software and use their own hardware - once Apple moved production fully overseas, they no longer were subject to the first purchase doctrine.

And get ready for it to start happening with DVDs, CDs and other media products (including books...) Right now, you are permitted to buy a DVD and then resell it as you please. Any limitations end with the first purchase. That will end soon enough. Especially with the lovely SCOTUS decision which enforces foreign copyright on works that are legally public domain in the US.

Then again, the idiot SCOTUS decision that defines ‘for a limited time’ as meaning whatever Congress desires, including 170 years or more, and retroactive copyright extensions, the whole mess is an utter disaster and completely unconstitutional.

15 posted on 01/22/2012 4:58:41 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

That was the wrong question to ask, “How can we get Apple to produce their products in the States.”

The right question is, “How do we create the right conditions, so that companies want to create jobs in the States.”

You might lose Apple, even with the best circumstances, but you might gain 5,000 other companies and start-ups as a consequence of having the best environment to helping companies succeed.


20 posted on 01/22/2012 5:11:51 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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21 posted on 01/22/2012 5:16:09 PM PST by narses
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To: Vince Ferrer

The only solution to the Chinese labor problem - or any slave-labor competition, because that’s exactly what it is no matter how it’s dressed up - is to have an entire WORLD based on the principles of the founding American documents, specifically the Constitution BEFORE, and NOT including, the 14th Amendment.

You say it can’t be done in America, let alone the world?

I say you’re arguing about whether there’s an alternative to cutting off fuel or oxygen to put out a fire. There isn’t. If you don’t cut off fuel or oxygen, the fire blazes out of control until it consumes everything in its reach - period.

And let me tell you who knows this very clearly: the people who run governments (slave and not-slave), and the people who run large multinational corporations.

They know EXACTLY what would solve this labor problem, and they are doing everything they can to make sure that solution is not even recognized when it sits in plain sight.

“For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” - Eph 6:12

That’s why the most common reaction to my pointing out the obvious in this post will be instant dismissal on the grounds of naivete - that’s the result of the efforts of evil to block acceptance of the truth.

But the Founders of America were basing their government structure on the laws of God, not human cleverness. Which, paradoxically, is why those laws declare humanity irrevocably free, and government dependent upon that inviolate freedom.

Which is also why, before God, to argue for any other “solution” is to argue about what stops a fire - irrelevent. Whether in fire or freedom, the Divine law is either obeyed, or not, with inescapable, absolute results for whatever path is chosen.

“Be not deceived; God is not mocked. For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” - Galatians 6:7

So since what we are actually watching is an attempt to enslave the whole world, the only real question is whether God will allow contempt for the Divine law of freedom to proceed to complete destruction - or not.

If not, then there WILL be a Divine intervention, if we can’t straighten ourselves out in time.


47 posted on 01/22/2012 9:32:05 PM PST by Talisker (Apology accepted, Captain Needa.)
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