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VCDL is one of the best of the state level activist groups. Philip Van Cleave is a superb organizer and leader.
1 posted on 01/19/2012 7:09:18 AM PST by marktwain
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I totally agree.

BTW, VA also has a superb Second Amendment Sister state coordinator, too.


2 posted on 01/19/2012 7:16:55 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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“We think that probably that should be a more comprehensive bill,” VCDL president Philip Van Cleave said Monday at the organization’s lobby day at the state Capitol.

“Right now, Virginia law is extremely good, and we’re concerned that if it’s not done right, it can actually make it worse.”

Mr. Van Cleave is 100% correct. While Virginia does not have a "Castle Doctrine Law", per-se, the Commonwealth also has no history of prosecuting, or attempting to prosecute, those who have justly defended themselves, their loved ones and/or their property from criminals. It would be a shame for us to screw things up by rushing to jump on the "Castle Doctrine" bandwagon just because it happens to be in the neighborhood.

3 posted on 01/19/2012 7:22:43 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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Colorado passed their “Make My Day Law” 20+ years ago. So far, no mass murder is happening in homes.


4 posted on 01/19/2012 7:25:36 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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Current good sale on 308 ammo. http://www.natchezss.com/


6 posted on 01/19/2012 7:35:58 AM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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I don’t think the Buffalo Bills have that good of a defense.


7 posted on 01/19/2012 8:04:31 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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Information from NRA/ILA on this topic:

“Castle Doctrine” establishes the presumption that an individual who forcibly enters one’s home, business or occupied motor vehicle is there to cause death or great bodily harm, and allows force, including deadly force, against that person. This legislation would guarantee a right thirty states have already recognized and one that needs to be realized in Virginia.

House Bill 14, sponsored by Delegate Greg Habeeb (R-8), would provide civil immunity to an occupant of a dwelling who uses any degree of physical force to defend the dwelling or another person in the dwelling.

House Bill 47, sponsored by Delegate Dickie Bell (R-20), would provide similar protections as HB 14.

House Bill 48, also sponsored by Delegate Dickie Bell (R-20), seeks to codify the “Castle Doctrine” by providing both criminal and civil liability immunity to someone who uses any degree of physical force against another person when the other person has unlawfully entered the dwelling and committed an overt act.

House Bill 925, introduced by Delegate Scott Lingamfelter (R-31), would codify a version of “Castle Doctrine” to allow the use of physical force, including deadly force, by a person in his dwelling against an intruder who has committed an overt act against him or another person in the dwelling.


8 posted on 01/19/2012 8:27:55 AM PST by Gopher Broke (Repeal Obamacare !!)
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“Nobody is finding themselves at the wrong end of the law. ... Nobody is being prosecuted for defending their home,” said Goddard, . . ."
Citizens can't depend upon the good will of whoever is in power, which is the current situation there - that's one reason the Constitution was written, to codify rights.

“What about a messy divorce? One partner invites the other over to pick up something, shoots them and then says, ‘Well, we had a messy divorce, he or she started shouting and threatening, I was afraid and I shot.’ You get away with murder,” Goddard said.
Sound like the "Wild West" and "Roadrage" arguments against CCW. These antis always come up with a lot of lameazz "What ifs?".

9 posted on 01/19/2012 9:57:58 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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What is current law? Glare at intruder in hostile manner until the leave?y


10 posted on 01/19/2012 6:39:05 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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