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Santorum supported a Federal law that would have allowed convicted felons to vote after they had served their time in prison and probation and parole.

This is a terrible idea. If Santorum supports convicted felons, then I don't think I can support him.

I had thought Santorum was the best of the candidates. I never thought he was perfect but I thought he was the best choice. Now I need to rethink my position. I don't want to make the perfect the enemy of the good and I realize there is no candidate that I will always agree with. But this troubles me.

1 posted on 01/16/2012 9:23:39 AM PST by detective
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Yep, if this is true and a lot of the convicted felons are illegals.


2 posted on 01/16/2012 9:27:48 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Bit of a non issue since felons can already vote in every state. Some conditions apply in most, such as they must have served their sentences, probation, paroles etc. In Maine and Vermont, incarcerated felons are allowed to vote.

http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=286


3 posted on 01/16/2012 9:27:57 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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Why just their voting rights? If he doesn’t “support” the restoration of their Second Amendment rights once they “complete their sentences”, he’s a hypocrite just as the commie ‘RATS are on this same subject.


4 posted on 01/16/2012 9:28:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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I want to know what the Republican candidates always seem to be for things that will help only the other side?


5 posted on 01/16/2012 9:28:51 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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agree - also his record on earmarks is bothersome and although I realize PA is a union heavy state, he has
kowtowed to the unions.
6 posted on 01/16/2012 9:29:12 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Dang, I was planning to support Santorum in the primary.

This is likely a deal breaker.

Dang.

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7 posted on 01/16/2012 9:31:03 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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If a felon has served all his time, is his debt to society not paid?


8 posted on 01/16/2012 9:31:41 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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I’m a convicted felon.

The vicious nature of my not showing up for court many years ago is plenty of reason for stripping me of my vote forever.

BTW I vote legally and I vote conservative because voting rights are a state issue.

Just be thankful we allow stupid people to vote.


10 posted on 01/16/2012 9:31:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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I’m getting sick of all this infighting by the Republican Establishment against Santorum—or anyone else of whom they disapprove.

This is the second article today where the WashTimes pushes propaganda against Santorum in order to sink him in the primaries.

First they did that vague article that the Evangelicals didn’t really endorse him, because someone saw somebody cheat at the vote. Really? Absolutely no established sources or facts are involved.

Now they try to tar Santorum as favoring votes for felons. He didn’t “admit” it, he accused the Superpac of lying because they said he wanted to give felons the vote. No, he wanted to allow them to vote after they had served their time, passed their paroles, and were finished with paying their debt to society. It’s the DEMOCRATS who want to give felons still in prison the vote, but the ad pretended that Santorum sided with them.

No, I agree with him. You serve your time, you pay the price, you do your parole, and you get your citizenship back. Or doesn’t anyone believe in the idea of forgiveness for those who have paid the price?


13 posted on 01/16/2012 9:36:13 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Santorum supported a Federal law that would have allowed convicted felons to vote after they had served their time in prison and probation and parole. This is a terrible idea.

Where in the Constitution are a Citizen's Rights revoked AFTER serving their prison sentence, probation and parole??

17 posted on 01/16/2012 9:39:20 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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This is a terrible idea. If Santorum supports convicted felons, then I don't think I can support him.

Santorum isn't addressing the real problem. He needs to address the issue of jaywalking becoming a felony offense. Not really, but I think you get my meaning...
18 posted on 01/16/2012 9:39:58 AM PST by BikerJoe
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Bad idea to begin with but the worst part is he wanted to force states to do it since they are responsible for elections and election laws, till the 1960s civil rights bills jumped in and started micro-managing certain states.

Very discouraging.


20 posted on 01/16/2012 9:40:28 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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Ricky needs to explain voting for felons to be able to vote as well as THIS RINO voting record:

RICK SANTORUM

VOTED AGAINST INCREASING THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRATION INVESTIGATORS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00201

VOTED TO ALLOW ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO RECEIVE THE EARNED INCOME CREDIT BEFORE BECOMING CITIZENS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00154

VOTED TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00058

SANTORUM: TRIM SOCIAL SECURITY NOW- EVEN IF PAINFUL.http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j7O34Bpp42k-IlMMNiOLBkYF2zNw?docId=b1cff9ecefe24ca6ae1764a09761e361

VOTED TO GIVE WELFARE BENEFITS TO NATURALIZED CITIZENS without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=104&session=1&vote=00427

VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS, paid for by reductions in state grants.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00179

VOTED AGAINST FOOD STAMP REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00353

VOTED AGAINST MEDICAID REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00352

VOTED TO INCREASE THE SOCIAL SERVICES BLOCK GRANT FROM $1 BILLION to $2 BILLION
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00302

VOTED TO RAID SOCIAL SECURITY instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00056

VOTED TO IMPOSE A UNIFORM FEDERAL MANDATE ON STATES TO FORCE THEM TO ALLOW CONVICTED RAPISTS, ARSONISTS, DRUG KINGPINS AND ALL OTHER EX-CONVICTS TO VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00031

VOTED AGAINST INCREASING THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRATION INVESTIGATORS?
VOTED TO GIVE WELFARE BENEFITS TO NATURALIZED CITIZENS?
VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS?
VOTED AGAINST FOOD STAMP REFORM?
VOTED AGAINST MEDICAID REFORM?

People NEED to know this about Santorum’s voting record.
He has not been vetted.

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24 posted on 01/16/2012 9:44:24 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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What gets to me is that Romney supporters (AKA Romney) have placed attacks on Gingrich and Santorum, and yet if Gingrich attacks Romney it’s a mortal sin.

Romney gets a pass on negative attacks because supposedly it isn’t him, it’s his supporters. While anyone else is blackballed for negative attacks on Romney.

Either way Republicans are killing each other while the slimey SOB in the White House now laughs his ass off.


26 posted on 01/16/2012 9:47:02 AM PST by Venturer
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Sometimes I try to have hope for this party and then I am always disappointed.

Compassionate conservatism for sure!


27 posted on 01/16/2012 9:47:23 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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Please show me where in the Constitution it says that once a convicted felon you can never have your rights restored? The whole idea originally was that once you had “paid your debt to society” you were again restored to full rights. You can argue over weather you agree or not but it is not in the Constitution to continue to deny any rights after one has completed there sentence. Now before all you folks get all up in arms, let me say that I like the idea of convicted felons not owning firearms and not voting, I spent 30 years in law-enforcement, but I can not find continued denial in the Constitution.
28 posted on 01/16/2012 9:47:23 AM PST by 95B30 ( The Professional Left: "Their morals are crooked, their take logic is flawed, their honor is stolen)
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Haley Barbour on his way out pardoned 200 new votes for Obama.
The judge who temporarily overturned the Barbour pardons and is trying to recapture 5 released killers should station marshalls to stake out the polls and arrest them before they pull the Obama lever.


30 posted on 01/16/2012 9:49:34 AM PST by chuckee
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Take away the social issues from the mix, and RS is just a C or C minus conservative at best.

Grade A on social issues, but not so hot other than that.


33 posted on 01/16/2012 9:51:48 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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“In declining states the leadership intuitively choses the most harmful course of action.” A Great Historian 1888


35 posted on 01/16/2012 9:52:36 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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The Washington Times is out to sink Santorum. They are doing their best to get Romney nominated and destroy the conservative movement.


37 posted on 01/16/2012 9:54:01 AM PST by bjcoop
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