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MILLER: Getting a gun in Virginia(DC)
washingtontimes.com ^ | 11 January, 2012 | Emily Miller

Posted on 01/14/2012 6:02:08 PM PST by marktwain

I walked into my editor’s office on Monday, a few minutes before our weekly staff meeting at 11 a.m. He was working on his computer. “Whatcha doin’?” I asked.

“Buying a gun.” He’s a man of few words, so I couldn’t tell if he was joking or not.

“Seriously?”

“Yes. I’m doing it before the meeting. Look at this,” he said, pointing at his screen. I peered over his shoulder at the website called Gallery of Guns. “You just put the gun you want in this box and it pulls up all the options.” He selected a Kahr PM9.

“Why are you getting another Kahr?” I asked, knowing he already has the Kahr K40 (which I’m holding in the photo above).

“I’ve had that one since 1997 and want a smaller one for carry. This one weighs half as much. And I’m keeping the same brand for consistency,” he explained. “Now I just type in my name, address and credit card number to order it.”

“Don’t you have to put in your concealed carry permit number?” I asked.

“Nope. The most annoying thing is remembering my password for the website,” he said. He entered his zip code and got a list of gun stores. “Just pick the one nearest to me and pick it up. That’s it.”

“That’s it? No tests? No registration? No waiting?” I asked.

“Nope,” he said as he hit the submit button and headed off to our staff meeting.

The next day at 3 p.m., I got an email from my editor with the subject line, "America Rocks." I clicked it open and his messages said, "Just got a call. My gun is ready for pick up."

On Wednesday morning, he went to the store.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; miller; va
More on the intrepid Emily Miller's quest to legally own a firearm in the District of Columbia.
1 posted on 01/14/2012 6:02:12 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Today at the Skeet/Trap range in Albuquerque, NM I met recent transplants form Illinois and California. When they asked what it took to buy a handgun in NM I told them “a driver’s license and money”. The asked about waiting periods and purchase limits.

They both about fell on the ground when I told them I’d purchased 5 handguns in one afternoon.

“How did you do that?”

I had money and a driver’s license.


2 posted on 01/14/2012 6:11:15 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

Reminds me of when I was in Tucson, AZ

I walked into a gun store and said “I moved here from NY and I’m not sure what the laws are in this state- what do I have to do to buy this gun?”

And he said “give me $450”.


3 posted on 01/14/2012 6:12:06 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL. I stopped at the local gun store last night and picked me up a Ruger LC9 on my way into town to buy groceries. I needed to get some bread and milk and stuff.


4 posted on 01/14/2012 6:17:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Cool! That’s how it should be.


5 posted on 01/14/2012 6:23:32 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
No- being able to buy from a gun store or a dealer without having to fill out that idiotic federal paperwork is how it should be.

"Are you a fugitive from justice?" "Yes, I am, and I am such a completely inept one, I am going to answer yes to this question and give myself away!"

6 posted on 01/14/2012 6:30:52 PM PST by susannah59
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To: marktwain

Why is this news?


7 posted on 01/14/2012 6:33:49 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: marktwain

I still have to get permission from the wife...


8 posted on 01/14/2012 6:34:28 PM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: marktwain
Maybe they have a rifle for me. That is what I love about AZ. $ and Lisc. they way it should be for law abiding citizens
9 posted on 01/14/2012 6:39:25 PM PST by Tubac414 (Just want to ride my Motorcycle)
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To: marktwain
Gallery of Guns

I've bought from them. My local dealer uses the site for his 'online store'.

10 posted on 01/14/2012 6:41:16 PM PST by wvguy
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To: moovova
No you don't! Here's stories that work:
1. Tom at work is going on vacation and asked me to keep this for him.
2. Jim at work is getting a divorce and he dosen’t want her to get it.
3. “Debbie” my girl friend bought it for me as a Christmas present and now that we broke up I'm bringing it home with me.
WARNING: Use Number 3 at your own peril!
11 posted on 01/14/2012 6:49:10 PM PST by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I bought my better half an LC9 just before Christmas.

Nice little gun.


12 posted on 01/14/2012 6:49:39 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: 2111USMC

That’s why I picked this one up. Something the wife would be able to handle too.


13 posted on 01/14/2012 6:51:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Last week I bought a box of ammo in Iowa with only a drivers license. I was legaly carrying at the time with a Florida permit. I could not have bought a gun there with my Illinois FOID. I returned to my home state where I cannot carry, but could have bought a gun. Confusing laws?


14 posted on 01/14/2012 6:52:49 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Just can’t resist rubbing my Illinoisan nose in it can you!


15 posted on 01/14/2012 6:55:34 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: susannah59

I agree.


16 posted on 01/14/2012 6:56:13 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: TaMoDee
...stories that work:

I have to be careful with the wife. If I'm not...there will be a VERY LONG waiting period. ;-)

17 posted on 01/14/2012 6:57:09 PM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: susannah59
"Are you a fugitive from justice?" "Yes, I am, and I am such a completely inept one, I am going to answer yes to this question and give myself away!"

LOL...yeah, I don't joke about filling out that form since the first time I bought a gun, I was joking around, marveling at such a stupid question, and I VERY stupidly marked "yes." Thankfully, the nice lady helping me was very understanding and helped me through my numbnutsness. I was quite embarrassed, as you can imagine!

18 posted on 01/14/2012 6:57:25 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
...Skeet/Trap range in Albuquerque, NM ...

Out by Double Eagle airport west of town, or a different one?

19 posted on 01/14/2012 6:58:37 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This is the first time my wife ever used an auto-loader. Even though she's a southpaw, she picked up on it really quick and is pretty accurate with it.

There seems to be a mag shortage though. Haven't found any in the stores. May have to order some from Ruger.

20 posted on 01/14/2012 7:00:55 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: 2111USMC

Same here. It’s too bad it didn’t come with at least one extra magazine.


21 posted on 01/14/2012 7:03:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Must be a marketing thing so they can list the price of the guns 20 bucks cheaper. KelTec does the same thing. My P-11 only came with 1 mag.


22 posted on 01/14/2012 7:06:28 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: 2111USMC

The place where I bought mine told me that they had a hard time getting those pistols in and that they are flying out the doors as fast as they come in. I guess that will make getting extra magazines a lot harder.


23 posted on 01/14/2012 7:09:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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To: marktwain

I’ve taken several liberal friends shooting. One even ended up buying a pistol and joining the NRA!

I figure it does more good than hours of debate.

Pretty much anyone can pretty quickly figure out that a ‘gun’ is an inanimate object, a mere tool.

In short, take a lib shooting; it’s WAY more fun, far more effective and of much greater value than thousands of lines of bitching here.


24 posted on 01/14/2012 7:16:14 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: marktwain

Just bought a pistol for my wife throught Gallery of Guns this morning, here in California.

Had to order it online, and pay a deposit. When the pistol gets to my local dealer (hopefully by Wed.) I will be able to start my 10 day wait.

I remember my old man getting shotguns delivered to our doorstep C.O.D. when I was a kid.... (for all you young ones out there COD stands for cash on delivery)

Yep he didn’t even pay for them till they got to his doorstep... times sure have changed here in Kalifornia.


25 posted on 01/14/2012 7:20:38 PM PST by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: marktwain

The libs will probably have a field day with this story,
claiming that it shows how a person can buy a gun on-line.

It is important to explain that this person DID NOT buy a gun on line.

This person simply SELECTED a gun from an on line catalog
and had it reserved or delivered to a licensed FFL dealer.
This person then went to the dealer and filled out the necessary paperwork to purchase the gun.


26 posted on 01/14/2012 7:31:18 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: marktwain; All
A good friend and handgun collector in PA finds the 1911 platform appealing.

This shot was taken over a year ago:

A couple of those full house custom 1911s went for over $6k.

27 posted on 01/14/2012 7:38:30 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: GunsareOK

did you see this thread??


28 posted on 01/14/2012 7:49:55 PM PST by DollyCali (UDon't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Cobra64
Some people seem to have interesting hobbies...

29 posted on 01/14/2012 7:51:25 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Cobra64

Now that right there is impressive.


30 posted on 01/14/2012 7:52:39 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: CrazyIvan
I bought a box of ammo in Iowa with only a drivers license.

No DL necessary in AZ unless you look like you could be under 18.

31 posted on 01/14/2012 8:11:13 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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32 posted on 01/14/2012 8:11:32 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: 2111USMC
LC9 magazines are available on the Ruger website. Prices + shipping is about what you'll pay retail in a gun store (if you could find them).
33 posted on 01/14/2012 8:40:04 PM PST by Afterguard
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To: Repeal The 17th

I think I saw that shot on a gun web site.


34 posted on 01/14/2012 8:42:04 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: marktwain
The one-page Virginia state asked the same questions more briefly.

So, whats the point?

35 posted on 01/14/2012 9:05:26 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: 2111USMC

Being left-handed there are no downsides to semi-autos. Everything that’s important is ambidextrous now. And you can learn to use your index finger to hit the slide release. That’s where it should be before going for the trigger anyway.


36 posted on 01/14/2012 9:46:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I remember doing that in CA, or at least my step-dad did it. I was about 15 then and I am 69 now(soon to be 70). I also remember him ordering my, and my brother's, first rifle through the mail(Monkey Ward specials), A win model 94 .32 Special for my brother and a .22 JC Higgins for me.

Crime was no higher then(probably less)than it is now but as soon as Kennedy was shot mail order firearms ended. Did it stop crime or even slow it down? Nope, but the stupid laws are still in effect.

37 posted on 01/14/2012 9:54:25 PM PST by calex59
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To: Cobra64
This 1943 Remington Rand 1911A1 (formerly property of uncle sam) cost me a whopping 20 bucks some years back. Cost more for the set of Micro Sights and Pachmayr grips than for the handgun. Photobucket
38 posted on 01/14/2012 10:06:05 PM PST by Sea Parrot (Utopia Is The Opiate of Liberals)
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To: Last Dakotan

Doubles the odds of getting a felony conviction.


39 posted on 01/15/2012 5:16:43 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: CrazyIvan; Jeff Chandler
I bought a box of ammo in Iowa with only a drivers license.

No DL necessary in AZ unless you look like you could be under 18.

The same way things are done in Missouri, no DL, no FOID, just cash and carry.

40 posted on 01/15/2012 5:44:12 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: TYVets
Anyone know what the FFL DEALER charges for handling such a purchase?

I have considered buying/ordering a cc weapon that way (on-line) but living in a very remote area have only one such FFL dealer to go to. (He is outrageous with his prices due to being the only game for over 100 miles). I don't want to get “robber” BEFORE I get the gun.

41 posted on 01/15/2012 6:10:12 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Progov

“I don’t want to get “robber” BEFORE I get the gun.”.

Sorry, that should read “robbed”, not robber.


42 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:57 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: DuncanWaring

That’s the one.


43 posted on 01/15/2012 6:25:42 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Boomer One

I see...


44 posted on 01/15/2012 7:07:23 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Progov
I have considered buying/ordering a cc weapon that way (on-line) but living in a very remote area have only one such FFL dealer to go to. (He is outrageous with his prices due to being the only game for over 100 miles).

Gun Broker has a search by zip code or by state on their web site.

Have you tried their search?

I put in only my zip code and it gave me FFL dealers as far away as 270.41 miles that were within my state. Note: If you live close to the state line, perhaps a dealer in an adjoining state would work, SUBJECT TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS.

In addition to the name, address, phone number, distance and other information it also gives what that FFL dealer charges in most cases for transfers and OTHER FEES (sales tax, back ground checks, etc, etc) for guns they receive.

It would be a good idea to contact the FFL dealer to make sure the information is up to date.

It does not include shipping charges by the seller of the firearm.

http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/SearchForFFL.aspx?st=Zip%20Code&sv=65721

45 posted on 01/15/2012 7:08:22 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

If you recall, that one even made an appearance in “Domestic Enemies”.


46 posted on 01/15/2012 3:17:45 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

No buying guns on Sunday in NJ, because the State Police office that handles the NICS check is closed on Sundays. Apparently an FFL dealer calling it in to have the Feds run the check isn’t good enough, so the state has the NJSP do it. Talk about redundant b.s. .


47 posted on 01/15/2012 5:10:36 PM PST by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy
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To: CrazyIvan
Last week I bought a box of ammo in Iowa with only a drivers license.

In Texas, they're only going to ask for ID if you look like you might be under 21.

48 posted on 01/15/2012 5:20:25 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> - - -)
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To: Progov

Expect to pay around $20 to $35.


49 posted on 01/15/2012 5:31:59 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> - - -)
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To: Mr. K
"Reminds me of when I was in Tucson, AZ..."

Reminds me of all the times, in the 60's, traveling to, or from, or through, Denver on United and could buy a gun right there at the concourse entrance at a fine gun store and bring it on the plane...

50 posted on 01/15/2012 9:17:23 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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