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As Washington observed, “the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty and the destiny of the republican model of government are justly considered as deeply, perhaps as finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people." An essay on "non-interventionist" doctrine. Screw You Dr. Paul.
1 posted on 01/03/2012 6:56:19 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est
Walter Russell Mead of the Council on Foreign Relations

Speaks for itself.

As a whole there is a vast myth of the US not being involved in global conflicts/interest.

We have a fine job of it.

2 posted on 01/03/2012 7:02:11 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Carthego delenda est

Do they think Jefferson didn’t send Marines to the “shores of Tripoli”. (That’s just around the corner from Carthage, btw, and I don’t mean Carthage, Miss.)


3 posted on 01/03/2012 7:04:19 PM PST by kenavi (1% of the 1% were born in the 1%.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

I understand that isolationism is historically bad. I understand that we have replaced DIRECT intervention with arming/supporting factions because intervention is wrong... but we seem to be @#$@# no matter what we do. I DO think we need to close our borders and stop all immigration that is not for

1) Science/tech/etc people we need...

2)People who would be killed if they can’t move...


4 posted on 01/03/2012 7:04:34 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

Phew. Bookmark for later.

I think Ron Paul’s isolationism is extreme and not in the American tradition.

However, even though we advocate principles based on popular self-government and oppose tyrants in principle, we MUST realize that our own best interests should come FIRST, and that a government such as ours cannot be instituted from without in an environment which has no tradition or history of freedom, democracy or human rights.

THAT is where the Bush type globalists have failed.

It took over a 1000 years of evolution before we got it right. Muslims have demonstrated their religion makes them incapable of even STARTING on that road. The results of our abortive efforts in “nation-building” in Iraq, our continued failure to achieve stability in Afghanistan and the poisonous fruit of the Arab Spring, bare this all out.


5 posted on 01/03/2012 7:16:53 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Carthego delenda est
"An essay on "non-interventionist" doctrine. Screw You Dr. Paul."

One day it may be us talking about a non interventionist policy with China concerning us. This policy of propping up and tearing down other countries came back to bite us with 9/11 and there is a whole lot of more bad feeling from many different countries that we have screw through out the years.

9 posted on 01/03/2012 7:26:15 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Grammar & spelling maybe wrong, get over it, the world will not come to an end!)
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To: Carthego delenda est

If anti-filibustering laws like the Boland Amendment weren’t in place, limiting the ability of private Americans to support nascent democratic movements, I could agree. Then it wouldn’t be a problem to claim that the early U.S. supported the export of democracy and it should continue. But these ridiculous laws ARE in place, and because they cannot donate to republican causes worldwide on the basis of American law, the average American doesn’t have interest in or time to study international politics. We all like to think as a result that the U.S. government supports the good guys. All too often, those average Americans are dead wrong. And THAT is why a return to normal American foreign policy would be superior to our current national policy of dangerous liaisons, utilizing our military only as globocrat enforcers instead of defenders of our national sovereignty and security.


10 posted on 01/03/2012 7:26:57 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Rick Santorum...conservative? See "Bridge to Nowhere" and "Arlen Specter.")
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