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Cost plus? No wonder my old man loved cost plus when he was a building contractor.
1 posted on 01/03/2012 3:40:33 PM PST by em2vn
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As the fed prints more fiat money the value of the dollar goes down and down..
And union wages go up and up...

Morphing this republic into a democracy is very very expensive..
Any democracy is loaded with hungry economic Vampires..


2 posted on 01/03/2012 3:49:07 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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$1.1B is about 6 hours in FedGov™ deficit spending.


3 posted on 01/03/2012 3:49:46 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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4 posted on 01/03/2012 3:52:21 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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I just saw a show about the Gerald R. Ford. It's going to be the first US carrier to use electromagnetic catapults for aircraft launches. Unfortunately it's at least 7 months behind schedule (at the time of the filming), and if things don't work out, there's really no way to retrofit the ship with steam powered catapults.

On the good side, though, they did have successful test launches of an F-18 from the test facility.

Mark

5 posted on 01/03/2012 3:52:33 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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On the bright side, the carrier will never allow Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.


6 posted on 01/03/2012 3:54:43 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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This is a government systems contract, not construction.

Odds are that most of the overrun is due to government interpreting it's original specifications as calling for more than was bid and accepted. It's an incentive fee so the feds can play games with "cooperation", "innovation", "quality" and just about any other subjective measure they can dream up. You lose profits if they deem it to be so.

So; want some extra stuff?
Willing to pay added costs if they are properly accounted for?
Going to judge me on my behavior?
Youbetcha sailor, it's coming right up!

7 posted on 01/03/2012 3:56:51 PM PST by norton
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a cost-plus, incentive-fee contract in which the Navy pays for most of the overruns. Even so, the service's efforts to control expenses may put the company's $579.2 million profit at risk, according to the Navy

This excerpt rings with everything I'd expect from the government.

The only reason to award cost-plus is if the plans are not clear enough to bid the contract for a fixed price. Sure enough, now there are cost+plus "expenses" due to what? Poor workmanship...or Navy bureaucrats bickering over the plans and components? I can guess the latter.

So next we see what is also to be expected...complaints that there are overruns...likely due to changes requested by the Navy. And if not, then why should the Navy pay?

So NOW I'll take off my blindfold and read the article in the spirit of Lazamataz!!!! =)

8 posted on 01/03/2012 3:57:43 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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and just how do the contractors justify such massive overruns???

any dollars going to fund political campaigns??

unions jumping up payrolls??

all change orders as significant as this need to be made public!!

11 posted on 01/03/2012 4:07:24 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Cost plus. During my last 5 years of service, I was housed in a converted hangar. Our roof was probably about acre-sized, and it had been re-done under a $200,000 "cost plus" contract. Leaked like a sieve, every time it rained, and never was fixed right. I said, give me 20 grand and a few dozen buckets of roof sealant, and I'll fix it by myself. Probably would have taken me less than a week. But we were not allowed to touch it self-help. Contract, you know.

That was ten years ago, and it's probably still leaking. Worthless idiots.

13 posted on 01/03/2012 4:15:21 PM PST by FlyVet
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Class and type:	Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier
Displacement:	appx. 100,000 tons
Length:	1,092 ft (333 m)
Beam:	134 ft (41 m)
Propulsion:	2 × A1B reactor
Speed:	30+ knots
Range:	Unlimited distance; 20-25 years
Complement:	4,660
Armament:	Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile
Rolling Airframe Missile
Close-in weapons system (CIWS)
Aircraft carried:	More than 75

16 posted on 01/03/2012 4:23:36 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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A Billion here a Billion there ... before you know it...

it’s almost an 0bama Vacation

TT


20 posted on 01/03/2012 7:23:55 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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