Posted on 12/29/2011 12:41:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind
President Obama’s support among Latino voters has declined over the past year, but he still carries more support from them when matched up against potential Republican opponents ahead of the 2012 election, according to a survey of Latino adults released on Wednesday by the Pew Hispanic Center.
While 58 percent of Latinos approved of Obama’s performance as president in 2010, 49 percent of them now approve, according to the poll. Meanwhile, 59 percent of Latinos disapprove of how the Obama administration is managing the deportation of illegal immigrants, while only 27 percent approve.
The Obama administration has overseen a record number of deportations.
Still, the survey showed Obama easily winning more support among Latinos in hypothetical match-ups against Republican presidential candidates. Sixty-eight percent said they would vote for Obama if he were up against former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who would earn 23 percent of the Latino vote, the poll found. The numbers were similar when Obama was stacked up against Texas Gov. Rick Perry – 69 percent to 23 percent.
In both match-ups, Obama even carried the majority of Latino voters who opposed his deportation policy.
The survey of 1,220 Latino adults was conducted between Nov. 9 and Dec. 7.
survey of legals only ? bwahahahaha !
“Latinos are naturally conservative, and we must reach out to them”. NOT
Latinos are natives of statist, big government, socialist states. They bring that strongman El Jefe world view with them.
Latinos also are extreme cultural nationalists, and they do not consider the US to be their cultural “Nation”.
Since probably 75 percent of hispanics are Dem, I'd say this tells you his support among hispanics has collapsed.
Thats what they are trying not to admit. Even die-hard Dems are tired of him.
Spanish-language TV is all-out assuring hispanics that Obama is their man, but he is pretty unlikeable.
This does not automatically translate into increased support for Repubs, but it is not good news for O and the Dems. In a fifty-fifty country, a shift of a single percent in a traditionally Dem demographic is disaster for the Dems.
So what should be our "hispanic strategy"? Same as our strategy for everyone else. Preach conservative principles. We don't want to trick anyone into voting for us, we want to persuade and convince.
People of Hispanic descent are going to be the majority of young people before too long. It's up to us to win them to the conservative message.
Preach our message and don't worry if some of those who like it happen to have Spanish as the language of their parents, their grandparents - or even their native language.
So what should be our “hispanic strategy”? Same as our strategy for everyone else. Preach conservative principles. We don’t want to trick anyone into voting for us, we want to persuade and convince.
Unfotunately, too many Liberal RINOs start pushing the “If We Do Not Give Illegal Aliens Amnesty....Hispanics Will Not Vote For Us” nonsense.
We saw that epic fail in 2008, when pro-Illegal Alien Liberal RINO John McCain lost the Hispanic vote 2 to 1 even though McCain authored the Illegal Alien Amnesty bill in 2007
The GOP would do fine just focusing on normal conservative values....but too many pander to the La Raza/Hispanic KKK Hate Groups, who want Amnesty
People of Hispanic descent are going to be the majority of young people before too long. It's up to us to win them to the conservative message.
The problem is that young people of whatever descent are not hearing the conservative message. It is not explicitly taught anywhere, it is not articulated anywhere, not even (in most cases) by Repub candidates.
People do find their way to it, but usually by the twin forces of life experience and religious faith. Because its been stripped away from school curriculum, people go through years of unlearning what they were taught, and what was reinforced by the popular culture on all sides.
Our problem is deeper than what politics alone can solve. But the solution lies in preaching principle, not just policy. There aren't many politicians who know how to do that. And politicians alone can't compete with the culture; our ideas have to be incubated in families and churches and the schools; lose on those fronts and you've lost the politics before you start.
And, like you say, we shouldn't write off any demographic. Ethnic politics is what Dems do. When Repubs try to do it, we usually do it badly. But people are not just a "demographic", they are people and you have to talk to them with respect if you want them to hear you. And you have to have the clarity of conviction if you want them to hear you. Thats actually the key.
I don’t think there is any method that could only poll those here legally.
They won’t properly self-identify.
“Unless we start preaching conservative principles to everybody and knock off the anti-Hispanic stuff that GOPers love to do, I’d say we’re sunk.”
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Well, that’s Part II of the problem.
Part I is that various ethnic minorities think of their hyphenated minority status FIRST and foremost, as opposed to attempting assimilation as plain old Americans.
Sure, convey the conservative message with stalwart confidence and vigor, but not fashioned in pandering style for the “special needs” of particular ethnic audience group.
Isn’t race-based polling, you know, racist? Who would assume that all people of the same race have the same political philosophy but a racist?
Marco Rubio on the ticket would greatly enhance Republican chances of picking up Hispanic votes, and the opportunity is here. ...At the very least, we can expect far less enthusiasm from Hispanics for the Dem ticket. Whether or not that means Republicans can get over the 30 percent barrier doesn’t matter. Low turnout will work.
“Latinos are natives of statist, big government, socialist states. They bring that strongman El Jefe world view with them. Latinos also are extreme cultural nationalists, and they do not consider the US to be their cultural “Nation”.”
Latinos are everything white people are; they are small business owners, welfare sloths, soldiers, everything; there is no “Latino bloc”. Their countries are as diverse as those the “Euro-Americans” come from, as are their politics. The way to win their votes is to appeal to them with the same things that would attract “whites”: lower taxes, more jobs.
Look to see a spat of Fake slated polls coming out of the MSM in the next five months all saying Obama is the best thing since sliced bread. No one but Mitt Romney can beat him—then say the reverse when he gets the nod. they will keep predicting an Obama victory almost up to election day. This can and will backfire—Obama people will not turn out if they think its a shoein.
I agree, except to point out that Latinos will vote 2 to 1 democrat no matter what we do or say, because for most, their ethnic and cultural identity trumps everything, causing them to vote for whoever panders to the "familia". We will never get a majority of illegals-made-legal, or their descendants, because we are cultural adversaries.
The tribal freaks are not too careful in their “Latino” surveys. Often they fail to check if the person is an American and even can vote. It’s offensive to ask - so they don’t.
The same logic applies to northeastern white women; nothing will ever attract their vote, but they aren’t being written off. You won’t get more than 1/3 ot that vote, either.
There is no one “Latino culture”; what is being passed off as such is the Chicano culture from southern California. In my area many of the Hispanics are South Americans, and while some are illegal, a lot of them are here legally working regular jobs, paying high property taxes, and sharing many of the same concerns as the “Anglos”. They are a part of our middle class, displacing the permanent welfare underclass and replacing the children the Anglos won’t have - they are not automatic “D” votes, and are worth fighting over with the same messages that resonate with any hardworking taxpayers.
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