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Discarded embers likely cause of Connecticut blaze that killed 5
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/27/us/connecticut-christmas-fire/?iref=obinsite ^

Posted on 12/28/2011 1:07:48 PM PST by angcat

The fire appears to have been caused by hot fireplace ashes and embers, which had been discarded," said Barry Callahan, the chief fire marshal in Stamford, Connecticut.

He said the fire that engulfed the large waterfront Victorian home was accidental, according to preliminary findings, but an investigating is ongoing.

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The fire appears to have been caused by hot fireplace ashes and embers, which had been discarded," said Barry Callahan, the chief fire marshal in Stamford, Connecticut.

He said the fire that engulfed the large waterfront Victorian home was accidental, according to preliminary findings, but an investigating is ongoing.

1 posted on 12/28/2011 1:07:54 PM PST by angcat
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To: angcat

I screwed this post up. I did not see anything on FR about this.


2 posted on 12/28/2011 1:09:17 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: angcat

So sad!


3 posted on 12/28/2011 1:12:53 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Boardwalk

I think the Boyfriend is a Putz.


4 posted on 12/28/2011 1:13:54 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: Boardwalk

This is an awful story. People move to Connecticut because they think they will be “safe” - but they aren’t. Another horrible murder happened in Cheshire where a woman and her two daughters were raped and murdered by two miscreants who are now on death row. Tragedy happens everywhere.


5 posted on 12/28/2011 1:20:28 PM PST by juliej
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To: angcat

Her contractor boyfriend made a boneheaded decision, and now 5 people are dead


6 posted on 12/28/2011 1:23:36 PM PST by montag813
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To: angcat

Two people made tragic mistakes, now the woman has to try and live with this the rest of her life

This is such an awful story

Almost identical story of loss in Australia, except the father survived,so far
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078785/Matt-Golinski-Celebrity-chef-fighting-life-house-killed-entire-family.html


7 posted on 12/28/2011 1:25:53 PM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: montag813

why do you assume the boyfriend discarded the ashes improperly?


8 posted on 12/28/2011 1:29:37 PM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: silverleaf

Good Lord another awful one.


9 posted on 12/28/2011 1:31:13 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: silverleaf

I read he put them in a plastic bin or a paper bag. The story changed a few times.


10 posted on 12/28/2011 1:32:08 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: juliej

>>People move to Connecticut because they think they will be “safe” - but they aren’t.

So house fires only happen in CT, is that the point of your post?


11 posted on 12/28/2011 1:39:24 PM PST by qwerty1234
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To: angcat

embers will do that... all...make sure it is out...


12 posted on 12/28/2011 1:48:17 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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NO: the point of my Post is that they were living in East Village, for Christ sake, and were safer there than in ritzy Connecticut! Get a grip and read. The girls were also closer to their father in NYC. All that glitters is not gold. Also, the terrible Skakel/Kennedy murder took place in Greenwich. Wealthy Ct is a hotbed of “upscale” crime.


13 posted on 12/28/2011 1:52:08 PM PST by juliej
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To: montag813

Quote from contractor: “We will get through this.” With such horrible tragedies, I don’t think you get “through this”.


14 posted on 12/28/2011 1:54:13 PM PST by juliej
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To: silverleaf

Because the boyfriend said he did. He put them in “a bag” and left them leaning against the wall of the house.

He was also the contractor who was renovating the building, which did not have an occupancy permit or working smoke detectors.


15 posted on 12/28/2011 1:59:13 PM PST by livius
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The contractor/ family friend/ boyfriend is going to jail for a long time. He will not be “getting through this”.

Gross negligence with the ashes, no CO, no fire detectors, knowledge of the home’s balloon construction, five people dead yet he’s still alive... see ya.


16 posted on 12/28/2011 2:30:13 PM PST by Third Person
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To: Third Person

What is “balloon construction” in a building?


17 posted on 12/28/2011 2:42:52 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Third Person

I think there probably will be some negligence charges against him...if nothing else, his business is dead. He had built/renovated the homes of many well-known and wealthy NYers, such as Donna Karan, for example.

This was a terrible thing, and anything that could have gone wrong, did go wrong. The boyfriend said he had two of the girls by the hand and was getting them out when they slipped away from him (he has burns, so probably there was a blast of heat and he let go) and ran back up the stairs. I suspect it was because they heard their grandparents calling and looking for them, since the grandparents had been sleeping on the second floor and the kids had been on the third floor, and the grandparents didn’t know the kids had gotten downstairs and were looking for them. One of the little girls was found with her grandmother, between the first and second floors, and another was found on the second floor, while the one of them was found next to a window on a pile of books that her grandfather had set up to help her get out. He had gone out the window first on to a second story roof so he could help her out, but he died before he could get her.

A horrible, tragic story - and a reminder to go check your smoke detectors right now.


18 posted on 12/28/2011 2:53:41 PM PST by livius
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Quote from contractor: "We will get through this."

They were not his children or his parents. He may "get through this," but I pity that poor woman.

19 posted on 12/28/2011 3:21:17 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: Frank_2001

Balloon framing allows for fire to much more rapidly through a house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(construction)#Balloon_framing


20 posted on 12/28/2011 3:55:54 PM PST by Third Person
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