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Gingrich hits Rep. Paul on volunteers who want drug legalization and 9/11 truther views
Washington Times ^ | December 22, 2011, 02:32PM | Kery pickett

Posted on 12/27/2011 7:28:26 PM PST by RaceBannon

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To: RaceBannon

America is doomed. We need Divine intervention.


21 posted on 12/27/2011 11:39:52 PM PST by microgood
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To: RaceBannon

I’m not a Paul supporter. Yeah I’d vote for him if he won the nomination to prevent Obama from ruling a 2nd term. However, no Conservative who understands the Constitution can support the War On Drugs. It is nothing more then a 2nd Prohibition without the required Amendment.

The only Constitutional way to give the Feds the power to enforce another prohibition is the same as it was since this country was started - pass an amendment. Since there is no Prohibition Amendment against drugs there is no legit authority under the US Constitution for the federal government to regulate/prohibit them. Regardless of how you feel about drugs; the issue is unconstitutional power abuse by the federal government.

So the issue is not about making drugs legal. Technically, at the federal level they always have been “Legal” without a Prohibition Amendment. The issue is forcing the federal government to follow the Constitution as written.

If you want Drugs Prohibited by the federal government get an amendment passed to give them the power. Attacking the dope-heads because you don’t like drug use instead of directing your anger at the worse bad guys here is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.


22 posted on 12/28/2011 1:57:17 AM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: running_dog_lackey

You forgot the sarcasm tag. The only thing the “war on a few of the drugs” is doing is funding drug kingpins and legions of corrupt LEOs


23 posted on 12/28/2011 2:30:09 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: running_dog_lackey
Really?
Then I guess all that violence in the south is just over importing daises...silly me.
24 posted on 12/28/2011 4:30:39 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: RaceBannon
I do not support all of Ron Paul's positions, but, this is a perfect example of the old “establishment” desperately trying to hold on to power, while the rest of the American people want [real] change, just to name a few:

1. less government;
2. lower taxes;
3. less regulation;
4. government off the backs of the American people;
5. secure borders;
6. No. 1 military in the world;
7. the rights of Americans protected.

I would support Ron Paul over Obama any day of the week!

25 posted on 12/28/2011 6:43:05 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: littlesorrel; UnwashedPeasant
*** Your a complete idiot. This country has a drug problem from Maine to California.Prescription narcotic use from Vicodin to Oxycontin is a cancer that is worse than what Dr.Paul is talking about ***

Oh really? And what is the percentage of the Rx abuse of said narcotics compared to the percentage of people prescribed those 'pain killers' who do not abuse them and need them to function. To control the constant pain and just make it through the day?

But that's sort of beside the point as what 'Dr Paul' is talking about is legalizing all drugs like Heroin. Which from my life long personal knowledge and known facts will turn every user into a Junkie (no such thing as 'recreational use' of H). And it WILL eventually KILL most of them from an OD or a 'Hot Shot' (hint: never sleep with your Pushers wife/GF). And you're also likely get a bunch of other little nasty diseases that will kill you from shooting up. Also, unlike Rx 'narcotics', with H that monkey is always on your back if you 'kick it' (ha, that never happens, one always relapses w/ H).

Even with the 'harmless' marijuana, studies now show that permanent brain damage does occur from prolonged use. And as far as it being a gateway drug, that's mostly true too. More heroin users started off with a joint than with a shot of Jack.

Now I won't go into 'whose an idiot'. In some cases we are winning the war on drugs, like with the Columbia Coke Cartels, and in some we're not like with Mexico. But THAT is a pc political thing. We 'could' wipe them out in a month if we wanted too. But for one thing Mexico doesn't want us to. They need the drug money to prop up their stinking government.

From what I've seen in my 60+ years it is my opinion that every heroin Pusher should be shot on sight then given a Medal. (you'll note I do not use the word 'dealer')

26 posted on 12/28/2011 6:44:07 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: TitansAFC

LOL! But, but, you forgot to say; CONSTITUTION! something, something, something, something.


27 posted on 12/28/2011 6:48:42 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: paratrooper82

that’s funny, you just described the platform om almost all the other candidates, too

Especially Bachmann and Santorum

so, other than being an absolute lunatic, just because Ron Paul copies everyone elses platform to sound conservative, what actual reason should we vote for him?

We now know what he has in common with Bachmann and Santorum, but the differences are most profound, right??

legal dope,
legal prostitution (YES, LIBERTARIANS ARE FOR LEGAL PROSTITUTION!)
Iranian nukes
Abandoning Israel
favoring Muslims because there is nothing dangerous about muslims

You RONULANS are so stretched, you’ve snapped!
abolish the CIA, FBI


28 posted on 12/28/2011 7:05:15 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon
Maybe you missed the part where I stated that I do not support ALL of Ron Paul's positions?

Obumbum and the established Republican RINO’s support Iran getting a nuclear weapon, the lack of action against Iran says it all, and this government just gave Iran one (1) of our top secret drones, free!

Obumbum and the established RINO’s refuse to secure the borders in hopes of more liberal votes!

Obumbum and the establishment RINO’s are running guns to drug cartels in Mexico where they are estimated to have killed more than 2000 people, not to mention the fact they murdered a government agent. This operation to curtail the second amendment rights of every American!

Obumbum and the establishment RINO’s have overseen a 16 trillion deficit and are now going to increase the budget another 1.2 trillion dollars on the back on every American and those who are not even born yet!

Obumbum and the establishment RINO’s gave the American people socialized medical care that has effectively taken over 1/6th of the American economy.

Obumbum ans the establishment RINO’s have overseen the increase in the federal government and regulations unprecedented in American history.

Obumbum and the establishment RINO’s are using the TSA to stop traffic on highways and search them without probable cause in the name of national security.

I could go on and on and you are worried about Ron Paul becoming president? One branch of our government? The establishment RINO’s who want to compromise our principles and subverts our constitutional government in order to work across the isle with progressive liberals is who I am worried about!

McRomney, a big government liberal progressive refused not call Obumbum a SOCIALIST when asked by O’Reilly!

I would gladly vote for Dr. Ron Paul over Obumbum any day and if McRomney gets the nomination of the GOP, I will not be voting in 2012. I refuse top participate in the destruction of the United States of America!

29 posted on 12/28/2011 7:59:19 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: RaceBannon
"The really deadly drugs are the prescription drugs. They kill a lot more people than the illegal drugs. The drug war is out of control. I fear the drug war because it undermines our civil liberties, it magnifies our problems on the borders, and we’ve spent like over the last 40 years a trillion dollars on this war.”

What is wrong with this statement?

It's given by a physician who must have delivered hundreds (hundreds) of crack babies.

The same obdurate fool who does not see what would really happen if drugs were legalized does not make the connection between a strong national defense and our security, safety, and ultimately freedoms in a truly viscous and brutal world.

More than a bit frightening that he has that many supporters, and will have some influence on an election.

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30 posted on 12/28/2011 9:45:46 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: RaceBannon
It's always the same story with libertarians and their supporters. The libertarian politician wants 'recreational' drugs made legal and the college-aged folks eagerly embrace him as do many Americans who see no reason why they shouldn't be able to smoke a few joints in the privacy of their own home without fearing arrest. They scoff at the statistics showing the lives ruined by drug use and claim that just because some people become alcoholics doesn't mean that we should re-institute the 18th Amendment. Their argument is that if drugs were legal, there would be no more drug wars and everyone would be a lot more mellow. It's touchingly naive - or simply disingenuous, take your pick.

The under-25 crowd loves the libertarian 'foreign policy' - isolationism by any other name - although a libertarian will argue until Kingdom Come that the libertarian foreign policy is not isolationist, no sir! Then we have the folks who see no harm in two consenting adults exchanging sex for money (as long as it doesn't happen in their neighborhood). So it goes.

Today, we have septuagenarian Doctor Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who runs as a Republican but is an unapologetic libertarian and he is siphoning votes away from actual Republicans, a few of them quasi-conservative. His views are often ridiculous and he isn't going to be win the Republican presidential nomination, much less, be elected president but his supporters don't really care all that much. The good Doctor Paul is not part of the establishment, he has some cool ideas about drug 'legalization' and since he is opposed to U.S. 'intervention' anywhere in the world (if we're not being directly attacked) a 'President Paul' would keep us out of military conflicts and so, no U.S. soldier would ever be put in harms way again. A comforting thought, I'm sure.

That Representative Paul has some weird ideas - as described by Newt Gingrich - is irrelevant to some Ron Paul supporters, I guess. He is the 'protest' candidate (Newt's term, again) and besides, running in the Republican presidential primaries is a swell way to proselytize for libertarianism. That Dr. Paul, at 76, has announced that he will not run again for his Texas congressional seat means that, once he (inevitably) drops out of the GOP primary race, his influence will be greatly diminished. Meanwhile, conservatives will have to decide if among the few remaining candidates that are even remotely conservative, staunch libertarian Ron Paul is the candidate they really want to vote for. I think not.

31 posted on 12/28/2011 1:40:48 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: RaceBannon

bfl


32 posted on 12/28/2011 11:59:50 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: trumandogz

Well I have a neighbor who is a pot head .. he has zip ambition...he’s killed any zeal for life he once had.. He’s considered a looser and still living off from mummsy and daddy at 38 yrs old. They even have resorted to having to assume finacial control to spare him from going to jail....Further cannot establish relationships with females for any length of time once they’re on to his habit.

Ron Pauls is a danger to this nation and it’s people no matter how people might want to see him otherwise.


33 posted on 12/29/2011 12:08:51 AM PST by caww
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To: Jim Scott
conservatives will have to decide if among the few remaining candidates that are even remotely conservative, staunch libertarian Ron Paul is the candidate they really want to vote for. I think not.

Nothing will deter Pauls supporters at this juncture...as stated they really don't care one way or another...they are attached to his hindside and not about ready to let go. Brainless fools who follow a piped piper, and in this case Paul...but there will be another to replace Him along the way and they'll follow him too...that's what airheads do.

34 posted on 12/29/2011 12:13:49 AM PST by caww
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