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1 posted on 12/27/2011 3:05:24 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 12/27/2011 3:06:42 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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‘How’s that Hopey-Changey Thing Working Out for Ya?’ ~Governor Sarah Palin


3 posted on 12/27/2011 3:09:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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What?? I heard that health insurance premiums were going down $2500 per year..


4 posted on 12/27/2011 3:11:35 PM PST by CMailBag
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The obama-made unemployed paying for their own coverage are going to love it.


8 posted on 12/27/2011 3:36:34 PM PST by clearcarbon
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The plan is to leave just enough out of your paychecks so you can survive, be equal with your trodden poor fellow man, and unable to achieve the American dream.
And then if you DO manage to get your “American Dream” they will take it away from you, they will create a reason.


9 posted on 12/27/2011 3:39:25 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Castigo Cay by Matt Bracken, check it out. And his other works.)
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My family health insurance increased $100 in November and now cost over $13,000 per year. It’s more per month than a 30-year mortgage on a $300,000 home.

There is nothing “affordable” when it comes to Obamacare.


11 posted on 12/27/2011 3:40:48 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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My utter hatred and contempt for these people is beyond words.

If a nuclear bomb went off in DC and took them all out - I would throw a block party.


12 posted on 12/27/2011 4:02:20 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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and America takes another one in the........

15 posted on 12/27/2011 4:09:27 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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I got a surprise...my health insurance is dropping by almost $30 a month!

Of course, I have a $2,500 deductible, virtually no prescriptions are covered and every time I see my primary doctor I get a bill for 70% of his fee (in addition to my copay). Same with blood work...the bill for the lion’s share of the fee arrives weeks later.

Sometimes I wonder “why have it at all”, but then I remember I live in Massachusetts, where Mitt Romney denied me that choice.


16 posted on 12/27/2011 4:17:41 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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That dumb SOB has lost his mind. This is done in clinical trials every day and typically requires hundreds, even thousands, of subjects. The drug companies spend billions on it, usually testing and comparing only two drugs at a time: the new treatment drug vs. the old standby drug that’s widely recognized as being the best prescription drug for the condition — not vs. over-the-counter crap, which long ago was ruled out as the best therapy. OMG, and that fool in the White House believes it’s a good idea to test almost every over-the-counter remedy against all the prescription drugs used for the same disease/condition? Say a giant 10-way study for every disease?

If it’s done properly, you’ll need sample sizes of thousands upon thousands of participants for each study. Maybe millions of participants for some of them. Even a two-way study sometimes needs thousands of subjects. And the studies will need to continue for years AND YEARS. OTOH, if it’s not done properly, why spend a nickel on it?

Get ready to be robbed blind.


17 posted on 12/27/2011 4:28:37 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Well, we know that the model is Britain's NHS, and we also know that they routinely decline cutting edge medical care for their members in favor of cheaper alternatives, or nothing at all, to keep costs down. Unfortunately for Brits they won't be able to come here for the best procedures, tests, etc as they'll be phased out. If Obamascare is fully implemented health care innovations will be disincentivized, so after a some time these pesky cost-benefit calculations won't have to be undertaken so routinely. Maybe Costa Rica will be the default medical tourism destination.

On personal responsibility: take care of yourselves-- self-educate, eat properly, lose weight if you need to, control blood sugar, exercise, get your BP at or below normal range, consider some supplements, stop smoking and drinking beyond moderate intake. *Find a doctor that you can access privately, outside the system* Because once poor health gets hold of you quality health care just won't be as accessible as it has been, and you might bang into bureaucratic walls or just simply slip through the cracks, especially if you're of a certain age. And even if you're still young and in good health it's much preferable to remain healthy than roll the dice in the darkened alley that is the future state of our health care system. Declining health is never fun, but battling for adequate care within what promises to be a dysfunctional system will only cause you greater suffering. The goal isn't immortality but to thrive while you're alive.

Have a nice day and vote Newt in 2012!

20 posted on 12/27/2011 5:33:19 PM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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Starting in 2012, the government will charge a new fee to your health insurance plan for research to find out which drugs, medical procedures, tests and treatments work best.

Haven't private insurance companies done this already?

The goal of the research, part of a little-known provision of President Barack Obama’s health care law, is to answer such basic questions as whether that new prescription drug advertised on TV really works better than an old generic costing much less.

The FDA has already spent BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars doing this exact same thing. They already have determined that generics work just as well.

22 posted on 12/27/2011 5:49:39 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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