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To: rovenstinez

“... some of my kids were born naturally at home, what’s the big deal?”

I have no qualms with Greece. It’s their country and they can do what they want but I take exception to your statement. If I had not been in the hospital, my daughter and I would not be here. Complications arose while in labor and I thank God I was in a hospital.

“... it’s like a good human biological process, having a good B.M.”

So, you are comparing giving birth to a child as the same as going the bathroom? Seriously? Do you want to stand by that statement? If so, you have told me all I need to know about you. You have no respect for women or children.


6 posted on 12/24/2011 4:16:13 AM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree; rovenstinez

I think what was meant was *most* births(95%ish) do not have to be a medical emergency and if attended by knowledgable midwives are miraculous and boring at the same time. I am pregnant with my first and planning a miraculous, boring home birth. However, the hospital is the back-up plan should we fall in to that 5%. It sounds like the Greek women don’t have that convenience.

Back in the old days a lot of women died in childbirth from infection because of improper (or no) washing of hands, and actually at the time when births started transitioning from home to hospital is was the doctors who were causing a lot of the infection. Hospital deaths due to childbirth (infection) were higher than home births because doctors would go from patient to patient without washing hands in between. Yuck. And while on the topic, there was an article posted here not too very long ago that discussed that 20% (I think) of medical students could not identify situations in which hand washing was appropriate. This is one reason I am bound and determined to stay out of the hospital with this baby. :)


10 posted on 12/24/2011 5:19:17 AM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: momtothree; rovenstinez
So, you are comparing giving birth to a child as the same as going the bathroom? Seriously?

I got it. He meant it's a natural biological process that women are equipped physically to handle and accomplish.

While it's not that simple a comparison the fact remains it IS part of the biological process. That it's treated as some sort of miracle and is now treated like every pregnant woman is a borderline emergency room patient takes away from the true miracle.

One has to wonder how humankind has survived the millenia without all the attendant care to a single birth of a child.

14 posted on 12/24/2011 8:03:50 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: momtothree
Thats fine except for those with complications..my husbands sister was born at home...most people stayed out of hospitals if at all possible...as long as I could have the drugs, hospitals aren't needed....:O) GG I was hospital born and mom stayed in for 10 days. By the time you got home, you were pretty weak for all the bedrest..thats no lie either....With my kids it was 5 days, then 3 and not its drive through like Mcdonalds....at 20 times the cost...My first childs hospital bill for 5 days was 150 dollars. That included 5 days for nursery baby..1959....for me, my mother kept the bill is was 40 dollars and that included the doctor...1939

People has hospitalization not health care. It paid only a % of the doctors bill, you paid the rest...My doctors bill was also 150 dollars for 9 months care..

17 posted on 12/24/2011 1:20:16 PM PST by goat granny
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