Posted on 12/23/2011 9:15:58 AM PST by mnehring
Ron Paul is a Confederate. His advisory chairman, Tom Woods co-founded the League of the South, a pro-confederacy website. Everything he believes goes back to the South’s Civil War ideals of governing. Their version of Limited government is a government not capable of being a superpower. As far as national defense, they want to abolish the FBI and CIA and end our military presence everywhere. These guys are true isolationist, so much that we could never intervene with foreign affairs. They would prefer a national economy over a global one, so expect new tariffs on businesses operating oversees. Looks like the Confederacy is still bitter about losing the Civil War and this is their chance to win, by having Ron Paul as their man. He is successfully marketing Libertarian mixed with family values of independent freedom to gain support from the youth, the evangelical and reformed Christians, and targeting the anti-war people as their advocate. He promotes appeasement, which always sells well emotionally to the masses. I give him credit he is winning a lot folks over to his cause mostly because they are not aware of who he really is, but some of us recognize his strategy and are not deceived.
Ron Paul is a Confederate. His advisory chairman, Tom Woods co-founded the League of the South, a pro-confederacy website. Everything he believes goes back to the Souths Civil War ideals of governing. Their version of Limited government is a government not capable of being a superpower. As far as national defense, they want to abolish the FBI and CIA and end our military presence everywhere. These guys are true isolationist, so much that we could never intervene with foreign affairs. They would prefer a national economy over a global one, so expect new tariffs on businesses operating oversees. Looks like the Confederacy is still bitter about losing the Civil War and this is their chance to win, by having Ron Paul as their man. He is successfully marketing Libertarian mixed with family values of independent freedom to gain support from the youth, the evangelical and reformed Christians, and targeting the anti-war people as their advocate. He promotes appeasement, which always sells well emotionally to the masses.
I’m sorry but is that supposed to be negative? If that is supposed to be an anti-Paul attack....I think I know why he is surging in Iowa. We have to do better than that.
There’s not a dimes worth of difference between the anti-American-it’s-our-fault line Paul is spreading and what Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky squawk. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the latter two come out supporting Paul. What would Paul’s supporters say then?
Now I have to re look at Paul. Maybe he isn't so crazy.
“This does not make me a Librarian.” LOL. I meant to type Libertarian.
“I had no Idea that that was a bad thing until I met a few misguided statist Freepers.”
I do not support Dr. Demento however it is funny how many statists out themselves when launching what they consider to be a scathing attack.
hehehe...”Librarian” in this context means that you can read any book you want no matter what the government or anyone else thinks of you or it.
IBTZ. troll
The actual Confederates were not pacifists or isolationists. The South did not participate in the "American First Movement" prior to WWII (in fact, Southerners of the time were Anglophilic and many volunteered for the British forces). Paul's isolationism comes from the German Midwest, not the Anglo-Celtic South.
The Confederacy was also anti-protectionist. It was the North and the Republican Party that supported protective tariffs. However, today's neo-Confederates are not so much Confederates as pre-WWII "old rightists," which means (unlike the Confederacy they claim to admire so much) they are both isolationist (in fact pacifiest--as non-Southern an ideology as you can find anywhere) and protectionist.
Finally, the Old South was not anti-Semitic. The neo-Confederates, again, follow the Midwestern "old right" in taking pot shots at Israel for no apparent reason other than to establish their anti-Semitic bona fides. They even attack Southern chrstians for supporting Israel.
Neo-Confederatism is a fraud. It is not Confederate. It is part of the international "old right" movement that supports local beliefs, local religions, and local "gxds" and regards the idea of a single G-d and a single true religion as "one world Communism."
9/11 had nothing to do with the American PEOPLE, nor does Dr. Paul ever so insinuate. However, the policies made and perpetuated by the American GOVERNMENT may well have been on the minds of the scumbags who planned and carried out the attacks. We are an infidel nation aligned with a Jewish nation, after all. That’s all the excuse these 7th century morons need. Which is pretty much all Dr. Paul has ever said. Our government’s policies coupled with the moose slime mentality.
I think the term Neo-Confederate was coined by William F Buckley back when he purged their type out of the National Review (which helped get them out of the Republican Party) back in the 60’s. You are right, they were a new breed of nasty folks. Most ended up going over to the Birch society or other fringe groups and parties.
The Confederacy would have rapidly changed its tune on this issue had it won independence.
The CSA would have had its own "infant industries vital to national security" that needed protection against "unfair foreign competition." Despite the clauses in their Constitution forbidding it, they would have been forced to find a way to protect these industries.
Interestingly, the first and most aggressive promoter of protective tariffs was Henry Clay, a southerner and slave owner.
“Ron Paul makes one stupid statement after another yet there are people who are so stupid that they support him.”
When the Republican establishment promotes bumbling idiots to the head of the pack instead of principled conservatives, it invites Ron Paul types in, as the party’s limited government types feel they’re being left out by the party elite and have no one else to vote for. If such candidates were supported and promoted to the top, Paul likely would be ignored. We can thank the Republican establishment for allowing him to slip in.
Agree. If anything the Confederate Government was very open to foreigners, especially the press for obvious reasons. It was the Union that was a "closed shop". They came close top starting a war with Great Britain, with Lincoln's quip " One war at a time" becoming famous.
The American government is elected by the American people. Ron Paul continually attacks both America and the American government.. The distinction you make to try to defend Ron Paul is dishonest. Ron Paul says America is to blame for the 9/11 attacks. He has continually attacked America and says America is at fault for the problems in the world. He has attacked Ronald Reagan and the our armed services. Trying to defend him by playing word games and trying to draw dubious distinctions is dishonest.
You mention those “7th Century morons” and “scumbags”. Ron Paul has repeatedly attacked Americans for being “anti-Muslim” for saying far less than you have said. As a matter of fact, if someone publicly used the very terms you used, Ron Paul would have a hissy fit and say they hate Muslims and are hate mongers etc.
No it's not detective.
The electoral process was compromised and undermined years ago, after your government decided to intentionally stand and watch as tens of millions of illegal aliens pour into our country. It's not only undermined our electoral process, but our health care industry, our schools, jails, stolen jobs, taken over entire industries, and choked off our hospitals and social services.
It's no different than the U.S. Government flooding the U.S. with trillions in counterfeit currency. Oh, wait, that happened too.
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