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2 women share 1st kiss at US Navy ship's return
AP ^ | 12/21/2011

Posted on 12/21/2011 9:35:01 AM PST by JosephMama

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To: JosephMama

Who the hell cares?


181 posted on 12/22/2011 11:36:45 AM PST by SQUID
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To: SQUID

180 other people. If you don’t care, why did you bother posting?


182 posted on 12/22/2011 12:56:34 PM PST by JosephMama (Who to choose, who to choose...)
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To: JosephMama

This is an article from Military.Com. I do not know who the author is but he put it all into perspective about the repeal of Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell.

The repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is the death of any semblance of moral authority in the U.S. military. Homosexual acts and behaviors by members of the U.S. military are now officially considered normal, healthy, desirable, and non-criminal.

From this point on, to be a member of the U.S. military, officer, enlisted, or cadet, you will without exception be required to accept and condone, openly or tacitly, homosexual behavior sanctioned by the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the United States Congress and the President of the United States.

As a military member you are not allowed to simply quit, resign, or walk off the job. If your personal, religious, or moral convictions are in conflict with this official policy you are silenced. In order to serve you must now either agree with open homosexuality or subordinate your own personal, religious, or moral beliefs and look the other way. You will not be permitted to voice objections to open homosexuality in the military. If you do you will be labeled as a trouble maker and sent for training. If you persist in openly expressing such beliefs after training or retraining you may very well face criminal charges of insubordination or sedition. The mechanisms are already in place. You cannot simply “do your job” and ignore open homosexuality. It doesn’t work that way in the military. You will not be promoted and you will not have a career unless you fully support open homosexuality and its attendant behaviors. Officer and enlisted evaluation reports will reflect your level of support. That is a fact!

“Gay couples sue military for benefits” is the headline of a recent Associated Press article. This is just tip of the iceberg. The door has been opened and civil lawsuits against the U.S. military and all of its traditions and values by active and retired homosexual military members/couples and homosexual activist organizations are just beginning. These lawsuits will involve everything from on and off duty behavior, military uniforms and civilian clothing issues, priority and assignment of military housing for homosexual couples in the United States and overseas, military health care for “spouses” of homosexual members in states where homosexual marriages and civil unions are considered legal (in violation of federal law), adoption services for homosexual couples, use of on base facilities for homosexual social events and activities, participation in off base homosexual organizations and activities.....the list is virtually endless.

Witness the new official DOD policy concerning homosexual marriages on or off military installations by military chaplains. A policy that is in direct conflict with federal law that defines marriage. This policy effectively tells military chaplains who are always on (federal) duty they can choose to violate federal law. This is just the first step. Despite personal or religious beliefs and regardless of federal law, at some point in the very near future all military chaplains will be required to perform marriage ceremonies for homosexuals or resign and leave the military. Think not? Then you have not served in the U.S. military.

To accommodate open homosexuality in all five branches of the U.S. Armed Forces, The Uniform Code of Military Justice has apparently been revised to remove all crimes relating to sodomy, certain sexual perversions, and possibly even adultery. All changes to the Uniform Code of Military Justice are authorized and personally signed by the President of the United States of America.

As a result of this policy change we are now witnessing the pervasive destruction of the moral fabric of the U.S. military. Never before has any military member, as a requirement of service, been forced to condone and support homosexual behavior and activities. Behavior that was previously illegal, unhealthy, and detrimental to the good order and discipline of the Armed Forces is now legal, healthy, and desirable while objections to such behavior are now unauthorized, illegal, and can be a cause for criminal prosecution.

The long term consequences of this top down “forced” policy change to the moral underpinnings and conservative culture of the U.S. Armed Forces are predictable and regrettable. Our most intelligent men and women with critical thinking skills and strong moral or personal convictions will, as a matter of principal and conscience, simply leave the military when they can do so legally or not enter military service at all.

This trade-off may be acceptable for our political and military leaders but for our non-homosexual rank and file military members there is no upside.

The link below goes into the Benefits that are / will be available to “partners” of same sex partners.
http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2011/11/military-benefit-equity-for-same-sex-couples/#ixzz1fI9GSuS6


183 posted on 12/22/2011 3:08:41 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: darrellmaurina

There is no way that it happened to be a gay couple that appears photogenic and palatable by sheer luck of the draw.

Make no mistake, this was set up.


184 posted on 12/23/2011 10:21:02 AM PST by Round 9
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184 posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 12:21:02 PM by Round 9: “There is no way that it happened to be a gay couple that appears photogenic and palatable by sheer luck of the draw. Make no mistake, this was set up.”

You may be right, but if so, it means someone wearing a uniform is lying. That's certainly possible, but right now we have no evidence.

Remember that this raffle was a benefit for a Family Readiness Group. FRGs talk — a lot. My guess is we'll hear LOTS more stuff about this “first kiss” couple if things aren't the way they appeared. These two young women have put bullseyes on their backs and what they do from now on will be watched very carefully by both friends and enemies of homosexuals in the military.

On the other hand, it's just as possible that an attractive lesbian couple said, “Hey, let's try this, and if we win the raffle, look at all the good publicity it will do for our cause — and our commanders won't be able to do anything about it!” Putting $50 worth of $1 tickets into the raffle pot for the “first-kiss” didn't guarantee their selection, but it sure made it more likely.

Stranger stuff has happened.

I live outside an Army installation with sizable Marine and Air Force detachments, along with a group of Navy Seabees, and while I see sailors occasionally, I know the Army better than the Navy. It's my understanding that the Navy is considerably more “gay-friendly” than the Army.

I am not the sort of person to whom a homosexual servicemember of any branch would be likely to “come out” and I'm sure I've met homosexual soldiers without knowing it. However, based on what I have seen from getting to know military personnel who were only thinly-disguised homosexuals before the repeal of DADT, the number of single female soldiers who are lesbians is small but not insignificant.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but since soldiers are supposed to be physically fit and since a fair number of women in uniform are former high school or college athletes, it stands to reason that the percentage of attractive lesbians in uniform would be higher than the general lesbian population.

“Yuck alert” here — don't read the next paragraph if you are grossed out by gays.

Prior to the repeal of DADT, some lesbians I know in the Army used male friends of mine as “cover dates.” A fair number of these women were quite attractive, in an athletic and aggressive sort of way rather than a “girly girl” sort of way. I haven't heard this with my own ears, but my understanding is these women sometimes made comments about their “cover dates” along the lines of this: “Women have always ‘faked it,’ so why shouldn't I go to bed with a guy even if that's not my preference? After all, he likes it, I don't mind it, I get a nice dinner, and sleeping with guys deflects suspicions about being lesbian and helps me keep my job without having to make a long-term commitment to any guy.”

Obviously this isn't something I endorse, but sexual immorality has been a problem in the military among single servicemembers for a very long time, and lots of heterosexual women in the military spent lots of time bedhopping, too. Sexual immorality in uniform is not a problem that will be solved by re-instituting DADT.

185 posted on 12/23/2011 11:32:49 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: jrestrepo
Those were women???

My question exactly...

186 posted on 12/28/2011 12:34:20 PM PST by b4its2late (Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former.)
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