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Population Control, Marauder Style (Chart/Graph Fail)
New York Times ^ | November 06, 2011 | Bill Marsh

Posted on 12/20/2011 8:28:04 AM PST by fireforeffect

Chart of Mega-Deaths or Multicides in human history, with one exception. The Holocaust.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dictators; multicide; population; populationcontrol
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Yeah, I normaly deride post from the New York Slimes, but here their revisionist history is showing.
1 posted on 12/20/2011 8:28:07 AM PST by fireforeffect
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To: fireforeffect

Any mention of deaths from the Islamic conquest that started in the middle east and spread across North Africa into Spain?

How about the deaths resulted from Ottomen Turk’s expansion into the balkans?

I missed both on the timeline.


2 posted on 12/20/2011 8:35:26 AM PST by Roger_Wildcat
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To: fireforeffect

I don’t see cambodian killing fields, either.
15 million for the conquest of the Americas? Speculative at best.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 8:38:58 AM PST by steve8714 (A-B-O-E-R-&G)
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To: fireforeffect

Something tells me they include the Holocaust under WWII.

But take note how they categorize this crap. If the Holocaust had been a protected minority, it would have been “Institutional Oppression.”

The whole thing is a bit of a joke the way it is presented, but what can you expect?


4 posted on 12/20/2011 8:38:58 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: fireforeffect

Maybe, just maybe, their Jewish readers will have their right hands lose their cunning and their Times subscriptions...


5 posted on 12/20/2011 8:38:58 AM PST by null and void (Day 1064 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: fireforeffect

They got the Mideast slave trade (Muslim) in there for 18.5M versus 16M for the Atlantic slave trade.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 8:52:31 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: fireforeffect

It is in WWII I’m sure.

What about the bigger more significant holocaust? Abortion US & Worldwide.


7 posted on 12/20/2011 8:54:20 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: steve8714
15 million for the conquest of the Americas? Speculative at best.

Speculative, true, but also probably understated.

If you figure in those who died from introduced diseases, the number is probably upwards of 100M.

However, these people would have still died had all contact been utterly peaceful. The epidemics were a consequence of the merging of the Afro-Eurasian and American disease ecosystems, and could not have been prevented by any technology of the time. We'd have a tough time preventing them today.

8 posted on 12/20/2011 8:58:10 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: fireforeffect

Difficult chart to read. Instead of simply stating the numbers, it looks to me like one has to work at finding the info. For example: At the bottom of the chart it says “Deaths per year in millions.” So, if I am reading it correctly, one should look at the range of years of an event and multiply it by the number given. Deaths from WWII would actually be 56.4 instead of 9.4.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 8:58:47 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: steve8714

Cambodia is listed as “Democratic Kampuchea” under the “Despots” section. They list 1.67 million which is a pretty good estimate.


10 posted on 12/20/2011 8:59:18 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: null and void
Read recently that there have been 250 million killed as a result of Muslim expansion since its beginnings approximately 630 AD. This is no where on the graph. Look at that number compared to the crusades. Strange thing about the crusades many of the deaths were not battle related, and many were fellow Christians in Constantinople that were killed.

How many others were forced conversions (people not of the Book-Christians and Jews), and how many Christians and Jews eventually converted after years of being a virtual slave to Islam?

Funny thing our first senator from Florida, David Yulee had a father who was raised in a Moroccan harem. He was born in the Caribbean, and eventually became a wealthy man. He changed his last name to Yulee after our county was named after him.

11 posted on 12/20/2011 8:59:34 AM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: steve8714
I don’t see cambodian killing fields, either.

That may be listed under "Democratic Kampuchea" @ 1.67M.

12 posted on 12/20/2011 9:01:57 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Nevadan

I don’t know where you are getting 9.4 for WWII. The chart says 66 million.


13 posted on 12/20/2011 9:02:06 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: JoeDetweiler

I don’t see the 66 for WWII. The 9.4 per year is listed in the box at the very bottom of the chart.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 9:06:15 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan

“I don’t see the 66 for WWII. The 9.4 per year is listed in the box at the very bottom of the chart.”

I see......Second World War is under the first section....”Deaths from International Wars.” At the bottom is the 9.4 / year figure, but they have listed the war as seven years long....1938 - 1945....so that equals 65.8 million.


15 posted on 12/20/2011 9:11:35 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: JoeDetweiler
The data are poorly represented on the chart.

9.4 is the number of millions of WWII deaths PER YEAR in the data block, lower left.

66 is the TOTAL number of WWII deaths (on multiple continents) in the Deaths from International Wars section at the top.

According to The New York Times, murdering muslims don't count, nor do murdered Jews.

No bias here...

16 posted on 12/20/2011 9:14:53 AM PST by null and void (Day 1064 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: JoeDetweiler

Thanks. I see what you are looking at now. On the chart at the bottom they have the stats for the war starting in 1939 instead of 1938. That makes up the difference.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 9:16:08 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan

A lot depends on when you think WWII actually started...


18 posted on 12/20/2011 9:17:36 AM PST by null and void (Day 1064 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Nevadan

As I said, the data is poorly presented.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 9:19:32 AM PST by null and void (Day 1064 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

I agree.


20 posted on 12/20/2011 9:24:36 AM PST by Nevadan
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