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Liquidation Of Customer Stored Gold And Silver Bullion From MF Global
TMO ^ | 12-17-2011 | Jesse

Posted on 12/17/2011 8:38:03 PM PST by blam

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To: blam
In an oligarchy, private ownership is merely a concept, subject to interpretation and confiscation.

In an oligarchy, your life is merely a concept, subject to interpretation and confiscation.

21 posted on 12/17/2011 9:16:16 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Lurker
“If you can’t pick it up and run with it, you don’t really own it.”

Well, if it weighs 500 lbs...

22 posted on 12/17/2011 9:18:13 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Travis McGee

You called it.


23 posted on 12/17/2011 9:20:35 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: blam

I think thats what we used to call ‘theft’........


24 posted on 12/17/2011 9:22:08 PM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: blam

Pure corruption for sure. Best thing these traders could have done is to have gold bullets made.


25 posted on 12/17/2011 9:27:23 PM PST by Revel
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To: blam

They are trying to crash the system, no doubt about it.


26 posted on 12/17/2011 9:43:30 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Free Vulcan; blam

That’s been my suspicion about the “why” behind MF Global when I first read about their client’s missing money.


27 posted on 12/17/2011 9:51:05 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: blam

Sounds like a serious heist.. convert to gold(precious metals) and they “disappear”...

Could a new genre of heisting.. “black collar crime”...
Convert company assets to gold and the gold evaporates.. like down a black hole..


28 posted on 12/17/2011 9:51:52 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Congratulations sir. You get it.


29 posted on 12/17/2011 9:55:21 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: blam

It grow worse and worse.


30 posted on 12/17/2011 10:06:03 PM PST by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
In an oligarchy, your life is merely a concept, subject to interpretation and confiscation.

Precisely. It's the natural outcome of an outlook that sees human beings as nothing more than things, animals or machines.

31 posted on 12/17/2011 10:11:47 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: hosepipe
Convert company assets to gold and the gold evaporates.. like down a black hole..

Oh the bullion is still there, the trustee wants to use some of it to pay other creditors, thus continuing the theft of customer assets.

32 posted on 12/17/2011 10:17:59 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: hosepipe
Convert company assets to gold and the gold evaporates.. like down a black hole..

Oh the bullion is still there, the trustee wants to use some of it to pay other creditors, thus continuing the theft of customer assets.

33 posted on 12/17/2011 10:19:21 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: Free Vulcan
They are trying to crash the system, no doubt about it.

Ayn Rand once said, “Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.” In this case, the only premise that makes sense is that the SEC and other oversight agencies deliberately ignored the evidence handed to them on a silver platter. The question then becomes, "To what end?"

The answer to that question pops into perspective if we take a look at the outcomes of Bernie Madoff's crimes, which are in the final analysis, no different from those committed by Corzine and his cronies. In brief, the damage they did went far beyond the theft of peoples' life savings and investments. First of all, they did enormous damage to a number of charitable, cultural and civic organizations, deeply impairing their ability to function. Second - and I believe that this was the primary goal - to damage the fundamental trust that people held in common.

Let's take a look at the notion of trust from Francis Fukuyama's point of view. There is much that one can dispute about Fukuyama's analysis of trust, but if we look at what Corzine and Madoff actually did, they broke down the degree of trust necessary for what Fukuyama characterized as a 'high-trust' society. According to Fukuyama, a high trust society permitted the development of modern capitalist structures. Virtually every transaction we make depends upon the trust that we hold in common that our contracts will be honored, from the simple handshake to the most complex of legal agreements. Undermine that trust and you get... what? Chaos? Lawlessness? Sure, Fukuyama's a stopped clock who's right twice a day. But he is right in this case.

And then the question becomes, "Qui bono?" The answer will be found on the Gramsci-Alinsky axis and Quigley's Pakistani-Peruvian Axis. The destruction of trust, the pervasive corruption that many now almost dismiss with a shrug - it's part of the second phase of Gramsci's method what he termed "destabilization". Again, qui bono?.

Finally, the question that should haunt us all is, "then what?" No one seems to want to answer that one, much less think about it. For it requires you to think the unthinkable, doesn't it?

34 posted on 12/17/2011 10:23:34 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: SatinDoll; Free Vulcan

Jim Sinclair is saying they crashed MF on purpose because they were the “clearing house” for funds that were aimed towards futures options on gold and silver which were settleable in November.

So many funds, in fact, that Comex and CME would have defaulted - they didn’t have enough metal.

Look how Celente got burned! They basically stole his money that he was standing for delivery with!

That’s been the game all along. The futures market is so rigged, it’s ridiculous.


35 posted on 12/17/2011 10:24:22 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Ann Barnhart may turn out to be right about the impact of MF Global Failure. "

Operative words: "Global Failure"

yitbos

36 posted on 12/17/2011 10:26:28 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Well, if it weighs 500 lbs...

Then you're anchored to it and they know where you are.
You'd better be prepared to kill all comers.
In fact, as the Empire crumbles, this will go on until people do take matters into their own hands.
The question is, who do you have to kill to keep your deposits?

(Before FDIC, banks defaulted all the time and the National Guard made sure the banksters got out of town safely.)
37 posted on 12/17/2011 10:28:48 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Noumenon

Few understand Gramsci or Alinsky tactics and agendas..
Cloward-Piven although Beck championed displaying it/them.. is not displayed even on FOX..

Nowhere is this talked about.. Newt mentioned it “in passing”..
This stuff is radio-active.. no one wants to mention it..
Probably because they do not understand it fully..

There is need for “someone” to simplify this stuff..
Beyond it is a nasty and poisonous malfeance..
On FOX probably O’Really would block any mention of it..


38 posted on 12/17/2011 10:37:20 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: djf

The following is from http://www.barnhardt.biz

On Sychophants, Process Servers & Decoupling
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - December 15, AD 2011 9:38 PM MST

[The BASIS is the relationship between the cash market and the futures market and is very simply defined as (CASH minus FUTURES)].

“The lynchpin that is holding this dynamic together and keeping the futures markets tied to the underlying cash market is the fact that the futures contracts are deliverable, and a trader can either deliver or take delivery of actual physical silver via his futures position.”

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This crashes the system, doesn’t it?


39 posted on 12/17/2011 10:44:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

Pretty much, yup.

At least it destroys any idea of the futures market being a reliable “price discovery mechanism” that it is often touted as.


40 posted on 12/17/2011 10:50:17 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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