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Setback: 2nd level parking deck under construction collapses in downtown Cleveland (Casino)
19 Action News ^ | Dec 16, 2011 7:14 PM EST | 19 Action News

Posted on 12/16/2011 4:47:29 PM PST by TSgt

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To: TSgt

I’m just outside Cleveland - It’s been in the mid-30s for the last few weeks with mixed drizzle, overcase, periodic snow flurries. I’d love to know what the slump tests for the concrete were like and if they tried to use something that was on the edge - given the weather conditions it may have been something that would have been ok in the summer but not the winter. But I’m just guessing...could also be someone put a load on the deck before it was properly cured.


21 posted on 12/16/2011 6:03:15 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: TSgt

Union built and collapsed!


22 posted on 12/16/2011 6:14:06 PM PST by BOOHA
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To: marsh2
Not Indian. Downtown Cleveland near the baseball field and basketball arena. Cavs owner Dan Gilbert and Caesars Horseshoe.
23 posted on 12/16/2011 6:31:16 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Union built and collapsed.

Union rebuilt? It usually takes the unions building it twice and twice as long to get something at least half way correct.


24 posted on 12/17/2011 12:14:57 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Conservatives over liberals every time. No discussion, no argument, no liberals)
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“Officials say the strength of rebar is what saved the day. Rebar, the steel inside the concrete which strengthens the concrete, was there to prevent the falling concrete from crushing the workers below.”

Yeah, thats how it works.

One days someone will get the bright idea of just building the entire thing out of rebar.


25 posted on 12/17/2011 3:55:21 PM PST by BradWesleyoftheInternet
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would that be the same union workers that built it???
26 posted on 12/17/2011 5:33:33 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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I imagine it was the contractor who screwed up by cutting corners, not the union thugs.


27 posted on 12/17/2011 5:58:23 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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It'd really be interesting to hear this reporters description of fly ash.

The subject of guns shows their utter ignorance. A few years back I posted an article from the St. Louis Post Dispatch, wherein the reporter referred to a .38 m.m. gun, they ran a correction about an hour later and said it was a 38 m.m. gun, about an hour after that they ran another correction calling it a 38 caliber gun and later ran yet another calling it, a .38 caliber.

28 posted on 12/17/2011 6:59:42 PM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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Seems like the shoring collapsed, or was too far apart. Hard to say who is at fault...but I imagine union carpenters did this work...though ultimately the superintendent is responsible. The OSHA inspectors and insurance investigators are sharpening their knives right about now.


29 posted on 12/17/2011 9:32:43 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: marsh2

No. It is in downtown cleveland. If you watch “A Christmas story”, in the Christmas parade scene, there is a large building with the word “Higbee’s” lit up. That is the building. The department store santa scene takes place inside the same building. Hope this helps.


30 posted on 12/18/2011 9:35:20 AM PST by marstegreg
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We do have casinos in large cities that are owned by tribes. That is sometimes allowed even if distant from their tribal territory.

There must be some reason that Cleveland’s baseball team was named after the Indians - lol


31 posted on 12/18/2011 10:59:17 AM PST by marsh2
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