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To: TigersEye
RP said: 'To declare war on 1.2 billion Muslims and say all Muslims are the same, this is dangerous talk.' No one has proposed that. It's insane to argue against a completely false straw man.

Really? Ann Coulter has. This thread says otherwise: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2819403/posts So much for 'completely false.'

"RP says: 'we killed a million Iraqis.' That is wildly false. It's insane to say that."

Oh, please. You're pulling a single line out of context. The man was saying that we've killed a bunch of them. And we have killed, by some estimates, in the tens of thousands, but that has nothing to do with his point, which was that the war in Iraq hasn't solved the problem of Muslim extremism and war won't solve the problem in Iran. We can't solve the problem. Reagan left Beirut after realizing that.

"RP says: 'they want to kill us because we're bombing them.' In the entire history of the U.S. we have not so much as thrown a firecracker at Iran. His statements are utterly insane."

Maybe the violence we support against these people is simply too attenuated for you to catch on. We've historically funded the strongmen that have helped turn that region's uneducated masses against us. We pay off the corrupt House of Saud. We pay off the corrupt Shah. We pay off the corrupt Musharrafs and Mubaraks and Husseins, and then we have the gall to be surprised when, after we turn against or otherwise remove the propped-up dictator, their countries fall to the only organized opposition to these folks. And that is the extreme Islamists who look at everything evil these bastards did, and see it as American-induced because yes, we did pay for a lot of it, and yes, it is all too often our fault for looking the other way as graft is rampant in these one-party states.

The same is true in central America and Asia, and you could see the process in action if you went there, because the liberal elites that run most foreign educational institutions point to that corruption-for-influence game in order to spark revulsion in nativists, then promote revolution and communism in a lot of places. I saw it in Korea and I've seen it elsewhere. Heck, it works that way at home: the American people saw the corrupt Bushes as presidents and thought conservatives and the GOP were evil, and as a result we got the far worse Clinton and Obama. What's tough about this to understand? If we stay out of it, they can't blame anyone but themselves. If we prop up these regimes or their opponents via government action, what happens is what always happens--government f's up. If it were a bureaucrat going into rural West Virginia you'd see it, but since it's a Green Beret going into Bushehr you just can't accept it.

59 posted on 12/16/2011 6:46:45 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Newt Gingrich, a great conservative? Before he was Speaker and had to walk the walk, sure.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

You are clearly as insane as RP.


62 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Ann Coulter is not a U.S. policymaker nor a participant in the debate, and Congresswoman Bachmann said nothing of the sort, who was the person he was responding to. Paul said the phrase “1 million” and that was not taken out of context - that has a very specific meaning - he said it. He also made a remark that the Islamic terrorists haven’t targeted neutral or so-called “tolerant” countries like Sweden and Switzerland, which you can find very quickly is 100% false on a simple google search for terrorist activity in those countries. We could go on and on and on with things Congressman Paul has said that have no basis in reality or common sense. You don’t find making repeated statements that have no basis in reality a disqualifier?


82 posted on 12/17/2011 2:19:45 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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