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Defense Bill Will Not Include Provision Legalizing Sodomy, Bestiality in Military
CNSNews.com ^ | December 15, 2011 | Pete Winn

Posted on 12/15/2011 6:47:19 AM PST by Zakeet

A House-Senate conference committee has put the military prohibition on sodomy and bestiality back into the final version of the National Defense Authorization Act.

A spokesman for the House Armed Services Committee told CNSNews.com Wednesday that the Obama administration had “made its pitch” on repealing Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice related to sodomy -- but the members of the conference committee “were not persuaded” that the change was needed.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: absolutemorals; bestiality; gay; homosexualagenda; military
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No problem ... cause I'll just fix things with another Executive Order!

1 posted on 12/15/2011 6:47:26 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Wow.. some rare good news.


2 posted on 12/15/2011 6:52:41 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Zakeet

The Democrats will be tossing little hissy fits all day long over the loss of their bestiality privileges.


3 posted on 12/15/2011 6:53:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Zakeet

How can you be a queer in the military if sodomy is outlawed? Or, for that matter, if you have to pass a drug test?


4 posted on 12/15/2011 6:53:42 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ScottinVA

Yes and no. Currently, “sodomy” is illegal between married couples in the military, so husband-wife oral sex is a court-martial offense that can lead to dishonorable discharge.


5 posted on 12/15/2011 6:55:44 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Zakeet

The K9 Corp is breathing a sigh of relief...


6 posted on 12/15/2011 6:56:30 AM PST by apillar
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To: muawiyah; JLAGRAYFOX; unkus; Doogle; Foolsgold; freekitty; MamaDearest; Forty-Niner; flat; ...

As per Rush, the Beltway boys in this Regime and this Congress are clueless, due to their arrogance and quest for power, to realize just how incensed We The People are. November 2012 can’t get here quick enough so we can clean the feces out of both Parties. Everyone I talk to wants “all” of them voted out in disgrace. Corrupt, amoral Career politicians need not apply.


7 posted on 12/15/2011 7:15:44 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Zakeet; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice says that “(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by punished as a court-martial may direct.

So Dems and a few RINOs repealed DADT and now a soldier's homosexuality is legally out in the open in the military.(I assume this means the communication of those desires. ) But ‘sex’ between two of the same-sex =sodomy is still against the military justice code? Go figure.....

More ironic, the SCOTUS ruled that homo-sexual sodomy was a US constitutional right that cannot be outlawed by states repealing all those state laws, Thank Justice O Conner for that.

8 posted on 12/15/2011 7:18:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (Man we are screwed!)
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To: Zakeet
It will include holding American Citizens from US soil without trial indefinitely. Passed house last night.Drudge has many articles posted (a little late )
9 posted on 12/15/2011 7:28:59 AM PST by opentalk
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To: DBrow

I encourage you to check up on the meaning of sodomy. The queers like to claim that the Bible refers to oral with a woman as sodomy, but that simply isn’t true. It specifically means anal sex between two men. If the military has expanded the meaning, they’ve done so after believing homosexual propaganda. It would be great for them, the gays, if they could claim that almost anyone (someone who’s wife has given them a bj is also a sodomite, but that’s simply not true). Sorry.


10 posted on 12/15/2011 7:38:54 AM PST by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: Zakeet

But...but...but virtually every Republican Senator endorsed dropping sodomy and bestiality earlier this week. They don´t read what they vote on either?


11 posted on 12/15/2011 7:53:09 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Zakeet

We came very close to being another Sodom and Gomorrah. We’re not out of the woods yet.


12 posted on 12/15/2011 8:08:53 AM PST by Evil Slayer
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To: sickoflibs
So Dems and a few RINOs repealed DADT and now a soldier's homosexuality is legally out in the open in the military.(I assume this means the communication of those desires. ) But ‘sex’ between two of the same-sex =sodomy is still against the military justice code? Go figure.....

I had thought at the time that this would have been a perfect chance to hoist the perverts on their own petard. Remember that DADT was a Clinton dodge to allow homosexuals to serve as long as they remained "in the closet" about their behavior -- as such, I never understood why conservatives fought so hard against its repeal.

The UCMJ wasn't being changed -- which was the fatal flaw from the liberals' perspective. By repealing DADT, they think they've allowed the perverts to serve openly, but technically, any who do "come out" expose themselves to court-martial via Article 125.

It would be a career-ender, but I'd just love to see an officer refer these degenerates to court-martial citing Article 125.

13 posted on 12/15/2011 8:17:33 AM PST by kevkrom (Separation of Business and State)
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RE :”The UCMJ wasn't being changed — which was the fatal flaw from the liberals’ perspective. By repealing DADT, they think they've allowed the perverts to serve openly, but technically, any who do “come out” expose themselves to court-martial via Article 125.

This is the part I am pondering. I assume what this means is they can state their desires but not be caught acting on them. How would this affect them negatively ? How about if they pair up with the same sex, the relationship turns bad (almost enviable) and one decides to get revenge on the other one who is in the military and turns him in for sodomy?

In addition add the potential complication of same-sex marriage in some states that they are sueing for to be recognized by the military.

Once you start defining civil rights protected class's based on personal desires little makes sense anymore.

14 posted on 12/15/2011 8:29:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (Man we are screwed!)
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To: DBrow

Well I have NO problem with “sodomy” being illegal. Why anybody in their right mind would think the organ created by God to remove waste from the human body was created for sexual pleasure defies logic.The ban was instituted when our
Congress was yet run by Moral and Religious people who wanted
guidlines to encourage Morality in our Armed Forces.The the prohibition put an end to sodomy? or attempted sodomy? No But neither has it encouraged immorality and the spread of diseases commonly found bothering those who engage in such abnormal behavior.


15 posted on 12/15/2011 8:34:17 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: sickoflibs

Shall be punished— is a subjective clause in that the whole deal relies on inquiry and the unit commander has general control over such. Only rarely is the command to override the authority of the Unit Commander made manifest.


16 posted on 12/15/2011 8:37:35 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: sickoflibs

Is sodomy —or attempted sodomy a civil right? I have read somewhat reasonable reports that suggest sodomy is not a civil right.(at least it was not until the US supreme court tossed
Bowers v. Hardwick in Lawrence v. Texas,2003)


17 posted on 12/15/2011 8:42:50 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: StonyBurk

Assuming sodomy is limited to anal sex only is incorrect. Sodomy also includes oral sex...

Still support it being illegal?


18 posted on 12/15/2011 8:46:30 AM PST by RC51
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To: RC51
Sodomy also includes oral sex.

I do not believe that and challenge you to present something credible in your defense.

19 posted on 12/15/2011 8:53:15 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: StonyBurk
RE :”Is sodomy —or attempted sodomy a civil right? I have read somewhat reasonable reports that suggest sodomy is not a civil right.(at least it was not until the US supreme court tossed Bowers v. Hardwick in Lawrence v. Texas,2003

Read
Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003),[1]

20 posted on 12/15/2011 9:01:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Man we are screwed!)
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