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To: xzins
It amazes me how easily people are frightened away from voting, and towards tyranny.

Foreign aid should be given to NO NATION, they either live or die on their own. Foreign entanglements will be the death of our nation, and a constant state of war is the result of the interventionists within both Democrat and Republican ranks. Has anyone noticed, that we have spent ourselves into bankruptcy, "defending liberty" around the world?

Pat Buchanans thesis was that our interfering in WW I was undue interference, and was the direct cause of WW II. That point is inarguable. If we let the idiots in Europe spend themselves into oblivion, and die in the trenches for centuries, I couldn't have cared less. The U.S. choosing sides, and "quickly ending" it, actually has led to war without end, with OUR sons and daughters now the fodder. WW II, was simply the result of us choosing sides against Germany, and allowing OUR FRIENDS, to apply sanctions against THEIR ENEMY. This war on terror, is also a joke. We attack Iran, and Afghanistan, when those who caused it were wearing Saudi robes. Again, we are setting up another war, which will directly result from these interventions.

Trade with everyone, talk to all, and defend our shores with extreme violence, what is isolationist about that?

In case any of you have forgotten, the nation created by MAN called Israel, is a sovereign nation. It was not instituted by a miraculous Exodus from Egypt, it came into being by a vote of the U.N., which most on this forum hate. Either it can take care of itself, or it deserves to be in the ash heap of history. No amount of support, financial or military, will keep it alive one day longer than it deserves to be, or God himself wants it to be. For those of you that believe God himself wants Israel protected, let the Israeli's turn to IAM, and let Him fight their battles? He has said He would, why are we artificially propping them up, and taking His place?

In short, to equate Pat Buchanan, or Ron Paul to Nazis and White supremacists, is nothing more than a repetition of propaganda, designed to keep the trillion dollar heist of our wallets ongoing, and worse, the theft of lives of so many of our best and brightest never ending. Ron Paul is not an isolationist, but he does put Americas interests first, in a different manner than the war parties will accept. For that reason, and that reason is enough, he must be destroyed. If his views were to be allowed to grow, some very rich and powerful people, would lose out. Trillions are truly at stake, and immense power. The power to literally rule the world, it is as simple as that.

If we vote for Obama, Gingrich or Romney, SSDD, and we deserve nothing more. For us to have any hope of dodging the coming collapse, if that is even possible, and a perpetual state of war, the only choice is Ron Paul. Sorry, but there is no other that stands with Liberty, for U.S. Just remember, the next "global cop" will most likely be wearing a PRC uniform, after we no longer can afford the "honor" of doing that job.

18 posted on 12/14/2011 7:51:14 AM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: runninglips
“Foreign aid should be given to NO NATION, they either live or die on their own. “

Foreign aid SHOULD be used but sparingly; and for the right reasons.
We use it to influence things for OUR interests. There is NOTHING wrong with doing things in our nations best interests.
The Paul supporters who don't understand this are naive fools.
This foolish notion that we can just sit behind our borders and not interact in the world, is utterly foolish.

23 posted on 12/14/2011 7:57:26 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: runninglips

Ron Paul called Jews nazis. The man is either malicious or an idiot.

Israel is our only sure, long-term, committed ally in the Mid-East. National interest alone should prevent our kowtowing to their enemies.

God handled Israel’s international relationships in the past via the world’s great powers (Egypt, Babylon, Persia, Greeece, Rome). That suggests He might well do the same in our era.

Pat Buchanen and Ron Paul are anti-Israel. It’s a fact, and it’s not about foreign aid; they oppose the nation of Israel. Explain that.

BTW, Israel earns the military aid our own self-interest provided them.


24 posted on 12/14/2011 7:59:23 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: runninglips

UH huh,
And if the a-holes had given Israel it’s true borders, there would be NO Syria,Jordan etc. Sure would have solved a lot of problems. Instead they invented the Palestinians to harass the Israelis.

Face it, Paul is an anti-Semite.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 8:00:03 AM PST by marty60
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To: runninglips
the nation created by MAN called Israel

Ah no sweetie, God Almighty created Israel.

Stated as simply as possible for my response to this poster, seems only logical to do so, anything more elaborate might confuse them.

26 posted on 12/14/2011 8:00:21 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: runninglips

UH huh,
And if the a-holes had given Israel it’s true borders, there would be NO Syria,Jordan etc. Sure would have solved a lot of problems. Instead they invented the Palestinians to harass the Israelis.

Face it, Paul is an anti-Semite.

http://www.bible-history.com/geography/ancient-israel/israel-first-century.html


27 posted on 12/14/2011 8:00:40 AM PST by marty60
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To: runninglips
Very well said!

It's sane, rational FReepers like you that keep me coming back to a website dominated more and more every day by big-gov't (R) loving, neocon keyboard warriors.

Very few of us are able to grasp the fact that gov't, at the fed, state & local level, constitutes the bulk of the threat to our lives, liberty and property.

A question to you - do you agree that we, as individual Christians, have a duty to support Israel?

29 posted on 12/14/2011 8:40:42 AM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Ron Paul 2012)
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To: runninglips
Pat Buchanans thesis was that our interfering in WW I was undue interference, and was the direct cause of WW II. That point is inarguable.

On the contrary, the point is very arguable.

Germany's neighbors punished and humiliated that country with the harsh conditions set forth in the Treaty of Versailles. THAT, is what set Europe on the path to WWII, not America's participation in the First World War.

Hitler didn't declare war on the United States until after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. He'd already been making war against his European neighbors for years, at that point.

Funny how the Blame America Firsters always twist history to make America the bad guy.

49 posted on 12/14/2011 11:39:58 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: runninglips
Foreign aid should be given to NO NATION

That's fair. All of that money sshould be brought home.

50 posted on 12/14/2011 11:40:08 AM PST by DNA.2012
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To: runninglips
"Just remember, the next "global cop" will most likely be wearing a PRC uniform,"

.................and as far I as I can tell, Ron Paul is OK with that.

73 posted on 12/14/2011 6:24:02 PM PST by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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