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To: Roninf5-1

Spoken like a true Paultard and yet ANOTHER example of why we don’t need him or any like him (aka you) anywhere near the White House. Your first paragraph is typical of a Paulie...obfuscate what is really said and completely argue a different point and pretend it is rational. This article focused mainly on his foreign policy positions and you know it. I guess it is a prerequisite for Paul supporters to be intellectually dishonest.

As for immigration and Bush, this isn’t about Bush or his policies. And, RP has been in Congress for 30 years and what exactly has he done about our borders? Nothing. In fact, he actually voted AGAINST putting more agents along the border. AS for the US funding these terrorists...do you not know your history? Obviously you don’t and neither does Ron Paul. We initially aided these guys because we were fighting the Cold War. Guess what, we won. What would RP have done?

Lastly, since you are incoherent and incapable of thinking for yourself, let me help you. RP voted to “get the ones who attacked us on 9/11”. Yet, he and his minions say he is opposed to Afghanistan. WHY, then, did he vote to fund us going there? If he wants to get the enemy, how does he propose to do this? Think...it will help you.


12 posted on 12/13/2011 11:29:33 AM PST by chilepup
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To: chilepup

I am a Paul bot, and proudly so, because I am a libertarian. Morality is a personal responsibility, the state can not legislate it, but that does not mean I have the right to infringe on my neighbours rights. So clearly I believe that the state has some responsibility, but they are limited by the constitution.
Currently the constitution is of no effect! I see no candidate but Paul who would return us to a constitutional republic, my only dispute with Paul is his stance on open borders, but since we have de-facto open borders, my objection with him is mute. Not one of the candidates will do what is necessary to close the border between us and Mexico, or our ports of entry.
I would prefer to not live in a police state, that is created by dems or repubs and that is where we are headed, because some people fear existential threats, instead to real threats to the republic, out of control statists like both parties establishments.
Iran is not a threat to the USA, it may or may not be a threat to Israel, but I am a citizen of the USA not Israel, and being free, I choose to let Israel fight her own battles. If by chance Israel ends up fighting Iran, the last I read Israel had above two hundred nuclear weapons, currently non of the areas Islamic republics have any, seems to me Israel can more than destroy her enemy’s in a few short minutes, I see no need to fight her wars for her at all.
As a Christian, it seems to me that the lord thought we should love our enemies, and pray for them, so I will pray for you, that you will refrain from personal attacks against those with whom you disagree, as I pray that I too could refrain from outbursts caused by my frustrations at my fellow citizens.


13 posted on 12/13/2011 12:18:15 PM PST by qman (If you are prepared you can't be surprised.)
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To: chilepup

1. The author of the article claimed Ron Paul said that Israel was the source of our problems. I stated was not aware of it and pointed out how ridiculous it is to blame our problems on Israel.

2.This have everything to do with Bush because almost all current US foreign and domestic policies are based on his ‘War on Terror’ fraud, and it is a fraud because if it were not Bush would have closed the borders like every country has done in war since the beginning of time.

3.Yes, US-NATO intelligence agencies funded and armed Al Qaeda to attack the Soviets during the Cold War - thirty years ago. They also funded and armed Al Qaeda to attack Lybia - this year. I thought Al Qaeda was our mortal enemy?

4.As far as I know Ron Paul originally voted to go after the operatives the were involved in 9/11. The US-NATO invasion and then decade long occupation of Afghanistan morphed into something that had little or nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. Osama Bin Laden is dead and Al Qaeda in now based in Libya and soon to be in control of Syria. Why are we still spending billions to keep the US military in Afghanistan?


16 posted on 12/14/2011 12:34:16 PM PST by Roninf5-1
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