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Legal U.S. gun sales to Mexico arming cartels. (State Dept.)
CBS ^ | 12/7/2011 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 12/06/2011 11:47:37 AM PST by GlockThe Vote

Selling weapons to Mexico - where cartel violence is out of control - is controversial because so many guns fall into the wrong hands due to incompetence and corruption. The Mexican military recently reported nearly 9,000 police weapons "missing."

Yet the U.S. has approved the sale of more guns to Mexico in recent years than ever before through a program called "direct commercial sales." It's a program that some say is worse than the highly-criticized "Fast and Furious" gunrunning scandal, where U.S. agents allowed thousands of weapons to pass from the U.S. to Mexican drug cartels.

CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson discovered that the official tracking all those guns sold through "direct commercial sales" leaves something to be desired.

One weapon - an AR-15-type semi-automatic rifle - tells the story. In 2006, this same kind of rifle - tracked by serial number - is legally sold by a U.S. manufacturer to the Mexican military.

Three years later - it's found in a criminal stash in a region wracked by Mexican drug cartel violence.

That prompted a "sensitive" cable, uncovered by WikiLeaks, dated June 4, 2009, in which the U.S. State Department asked Mexico "how the AR-15" - meant only for the military or police - was "diverted" into criminal hands.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; obama; statedept
Read through the whole thing. It connects some dots.

Notice the massive increase in 2009 under Obama/Hillary?

1 posted on 12/06/2011 11:47:45 AM PST by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

BUMP


2 posted on 12/06/2011 11:56:26 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

So they want to blame Bush for selling weapons to the Mexican military? That’s a bit different than selling them to drug cartels.

Well, maybe not.


3 posted on 12/06/2011 12:08:54 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“There have been 150,000 or more Mexican soldiers defect to go work for the cartels, and I think it’s safe to assume that when they defect they take their firearms with them,” Keane told CBS News.
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I personally find that number to be simply stunning. That is potentially a very “competitive” army. The drug business must be VERY lucrative. In times like these one would think that Americans would have better use for their money.


4 posted on 12/06/2011 12:09:39 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: GlockThe Vote
"One weapon - an AR-15-type semi-automatic rifle - tells the story. In 2006, this same kind of rifle - tracked by serial number - is legally sold by a U.S. manufacturer to the Mexican military."

And this is our fault how? We sold a weapon to a foreign military, not to some punk drug dealer. If Mexico has a problem with that then they can find out which one of their million corrupt bureaucrats sold it out of the armory and stop whining about it to us. Had they been Chinese AK's that the military decided to arm their troops with it would change the outcome how exactly?

5 posted on 12/06/2011 12:20:19 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Palin’s fault


6 posted on 12/06/2011 12:29:36 PM PST by Hacklehead (Nearly all social problems in America have liberalism as their root cause.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Read the rest of the lonk - it massively ramped up in 2009 10x and Obama/Hillary refuse to release the info on how many guns they authorized in 2010 and 2011


7 posted on 12/06/2011 12:41:15 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; GlockThe Vote

Year Item Amount Pres. Sec. State

1996 Machine Gun (All Types) 1 Clinton Warren Christopher
1996 Rifle M-16 (All Models) 50 Clinton Warren Christopher

1997 Rifle AR-15 1,080 Clinton Madeleine Albright
1997 Rifle M-16 (All Models) 3,193 Clinton Madeleine Albright

1998 Rifle AR-15 1,292 Clinton Madeleine Albright
1998 Rifle M-16 (All Models) 954 Clinton Madeleine Albright

1999 Rifle M-16 (All Models) 3,053 Clinton Madeleine Albright

2000 - 0 Bush Colin Powell

2001 - 0 Bush Colin Powell

2002 Rifle AR-15 500 Bush Colin Powell

2003 Rifle AR-15 464 Bush Colin Powell

2004 Rifle AR-15 77 Bush Colin Powell

2005 Rifle AR-15 2,886 Bush Condoleezza Rice

2006 Rifle Ar-15 919 Bush Condoleezza Rice

2008 Full automatic firearms 121 Bush Condoleezza Rice

2009 Full automatic firearms 1,361 Bammy Hillery

2010 2,547,074 Bammy Hillery
Category I- Firearms,
Close Assault Weapons,
and Combat Shotguns

http://justf.org/Sales_Detail?program=Direct_Commercial_Sales&country=Mexico

Yep. Thats right. Bammy/Hitlery, 2,547,074

The commie donks ain’t gonna be laying this one on Bush.


8 posted on 12/06/2011 1:56:59 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: GlockThe Vote
From the article...

Here's how it works: A foreign government fills out an application to buy weapons from private gun manufacturers in the U.S. Then the State Department decides whether to approve.

And it did approve 2,476 guns to be sold to Mexico in 2006. In 2009, that number was up nearly 10 times, to 18,709. The State Department has since stopped disclosing numbers of guns it approves, and wouldn't give CBS News figures for 2010 or 2011.

So, what else has the State Dept. (Hillary Clinton) been doing?)

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

......................................

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

(snip)

“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

9 posted on 12/06/2011 2:03:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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“”And it did approve 2,476 guns to be sold to Mexico in 2006. In 2009, that number was up nearly 10 times, to 18,709. The State Department has since stopped disclosing numbers of guns it approves, and wouldn’t give CBS News figures for 2010 or 2011.””

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In the actual report the data is buried in “Categories” and they are blatant about not detailing it...

“This document reports data on defense articles authorized by USML Category,
aligning the report with the statutory requirements. Previously, data was reported
at the USML Sub-category level, providing readers with more insight on
authorization s for end items versus authorizations for parts and components. For
example this document reports that 46,280 Category J (Firearms) articles were
authorized for Brazil; of those articles, 98 2 (2%) were firearms and the balance of
45,298 are parts and technical data for firearms. Similarly, of the 1,064,921
Category [ articles authorized for Austria, 2,963 (0.03%) are firearms; for the
United Kingdom, of the 1,354,562 articles authorized for export, 33,786 (2.5 %) are
firearms.”

http://www.justf.org/files/primarydocs/655rpt_DCS_2010.pdf

So, if the bammy regime does not want to come clean on the details one can only guess by eliminating possibilities through subtracting Category 2 and 3 from Category 1.

Like this...

Category 1
Firearms, Close Assault Weapons and Combat Shotguns
(a) Non-automatic and semi-automatic firearms
(b) Fully automatic firearms
(c) Firearms and other weapons
(d) Combat shotguns
(e) Silencers, mufflers, sound and flash suppressors
(t) Rifle scopes
(g) Barrels, cylinders, receivers, and complete breech mechanisms
(h) Components, parts, and associated equipment
(i) Technical data

Category 2
Guns and Armament
(a) Guns over caliber .50
(b) Flame thrower:;
(c) Devices for launching or delivering ordnance
(d) Kinetic energy weapon systems
(e) Signature control materials, techniques, and equipment
(t) Engines specifically designed for self-propelled guns and
howitzers
(g) Tooling and equipment

Category 3 Ammunition/Ordnance
(a) Ammunition/ordnance for Categories I & II articles
(b) Ammunition/ordnance handling equipment
(c) Equipment and tooling
(d) Components, parts, and associated equipment:
(1) Guidance and control components
(2) Safing, arming, and fuzing components
(3) All other components, parts, and associated equipment
(e) Technical data

Given current events and in the light of F&F being the mindset of the “administration,” burying the details is HIGHLY suspicious.

Damn sure isn’t two 2,547,000 rounds of ammo and only 74 rifles...

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10 posted on 12/06/2011 2:49:40 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Transparency! lol


11 posted on 12/06/2011 3:19:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

The executive branch slogan: You can have the truth if you pry it from my closed, clenched lips.


12 posted on 12/06/2011 8:42:28 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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