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Andrea Tantaros is not my favorite, because she misses things, but she makes several of the same points many of us here have been making.

Here are a few mistakes, and things she left out:

Thomas Sowell agreed with much of Gingrich's plan, but thought it was too much of a political risk at this time.

Gingrich was a leading opponent of the DREAM Act. His plan would allow only minors who were brought to this country by their parents to gain citizenship through military service. It is not DREAM Act II.

Tantaros neglects to mention that none of the other candidates actually HAS a comprehensive immigration plan. They are content to demonize and take pot shots from the peanut gallery. This type of political gamesmanship from Democrats is the primary reason that we have not been able to fix Social Security or balance the budget.

1 posted on 12/02/2011 12:33:16 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
We don't need “a comprehensive immigration plan”.

We have immigration laws that must be enforced.

Claiming we must revise laws is just another way to avoid doing what must be done: enforcing the existent laws.

2 posted on 12/02/2011 12:40:26 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: presidio9

Once we have 11 million permanent legal residents who cannot vote, how long does anyone think it will take before granting them full citizenship (with the ability to vote for Democrats) becomes the next big civil rights issue?


3 posted on 12/02/2011 12:43:54 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: presidio9
Tantaros neglects to mention that none of the other candidates actually HAS a comprehensive immigration plan.

Cain does. He want's to electicute them and feed them to the gators.

4 posted on 12/02/2011 12:44:31 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: presidio9

And his view on climate change (along with Nancy Pelosi) proves he has a better grasp on that particular issue than does GOP rivals…puke.


5 posted on 12/02/2011 12:45:21 PM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: presidio9

Pie in the sky nonsense.


6 posted on 12/02/2011 12:47:49 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: presidio9

“smarts ... guts to say them out loud. Gingrich is a guy who often says what is impolitic ... refreshing, especially when most politicians are afraid to buck the status quo”

“If you have come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period,” Gingrich has said.

You ought to go home. Now there’s a profile in courage.
(But you won’t? Aw, c’mon! No? Por favor! Pretty please?)


7 posted on 12/02/2011 12:51:37 PM PST by tumblindice (The Cabbage Patch doll speaks)
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“Immigration is a great thing. We want the Chinese scientists, the patent creators, the Andrew Carnegies and the Greek diner owners ...”

This article reeks.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 12:53:46 PM PST by tumblindice (The Cabbage Patch doll speaks)
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Gingrich: If you have succeeded in evading the law (enforced by Leftist wimps who pander for "Hispanic" votes) for a while, you and all your progeny are now "Americans," with all the rights of people who came here to escape your Third World corruption and violence, you are welcome. No thanks, Newt. Go back and write another trashy "history" book, you traitor.

This country was founded by rebellious Anglo-Americans who fought to the death against big government, fool. No Hispanic nation has ever stood for our values. They had their chance. They had their own countries. We don't want them ruining ours.

9 posted on 12/02/2011 12:53:57 PM PST by hellbender
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Once they have legal status, e.g. red card, then courts or executive order can give them citizens more easily. In anycase, this would further increase illegal immigration.

Fence and e-verify would largely solve issue. We don’t need amnesty plan.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 12:54:13 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane)
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They’re gonna sell the beltway turd if it’s the last thing they do.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 1:02:27 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: presidio9

I for one am sick and tired of this paradigm that it is “inhumane” to insist that illegal immigrants go home.

We don’t want to torture them. We don’t want to abuse them. We don’t want to turn them into slave labor or chain them to posts in the desert to die of thirst. We really don’t want anything bad to happen to them at all.

We simply want them to go home.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 1:15:54 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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And if you've been here for, say, 25 years and pose no threat, you should be allowed to stay, not forcibly be sent back.

I have a feeling we're not really talking about people who have been here for at least 25 years. Most of those were probably amnestied already under the 1986 law signed by RWR.

The 25 year requirement is going to be reduced after the election. The question is to what? Five, ten??

17 posted on 12/02/2011 1:18:01 PM PST by freespirited (Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business & degenerates into a racket. -- Hoffer)
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No... it means that he is a sellout for what he thinks is the hispanic vote... but the majority will vote for obama no matter what and it also means newt cares more about votes than our society or our security. newt is a progressive political prostitute.

LLS

21 posted on 12/02/2011 1:21:51 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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CHOICE A: Elect Obama, get continued "administrative amnesty" for between 300,000 and 1.1 million illegals - all done via non-compliance with Federal law.

CHOICE B: Elect Gingrich and get the largest amnesty in history - for a minimum of 3.5 million illegals - larger than 1986, and via a LAW that he SIGNS.

Sorry...but I want another choice.

Source: Study Says Gingrich Amnesty Bigger Than '86 Blanket Amnesty -- Gingrich Seems to Reject 'Attrition Through Enforcement'

(Now let's see the NewtBots try and bash Roy Beck of NumbersUSA, who has been battling illegal immigration since Newt was an Alvin Toffler world-government Progressive)

22 posted on 12/02/2011 1:35:26 PM PST by montag813
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“Tantaros neglects to mention that none of the other candidates actually HAS a comprehensive immigration plan.”

Comprehensive Plan?

What's wrong with the existing laws?

Oh, I forgot.

We don't enforce them.

And for those who have forgotten something else...

80% of new immigrant citizens vote for the Democratic Party.

If new citizens voted 80% for Conservatives, do you think the Progressive Left would support Comprehensive Reform?

28 posted on 12/02/2011 1:53:00 PM PST by zeestephen
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"Newt Gingrich’s ‘humane’ immigration policy shows he has better grasp on issue than GOP rivals"

That's not saying much.

We're not going to get illegal immigration stopped until we wise up and remove all of the incentives to come here illegally. It doesn't matter how "humanely" you treat some illegals. That's merely adding another incentive to break our laws.

Cut off all access to state and federal welfare benefits.
Cut off all access to food stamps.
Cut off all access to free medical care (outside of life and death emergencies)
Cut off all access to subsidized housing benefits.
Cut off all access to free public school education for their children.
Cut off all access to state and federal tax refunds via the use of employee identification numbers.
Cut off all access to employment through the use of the E-Verify system.

Implement these simple, legal measures, and they will self-deport in a human tsunami.

The first candidate who puts this idea on the table, and pounds it relentlessly, will shoot up in the polls.

42 posted on 12/02/2011 2:45:59 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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"If you've been here 25 years and you got three kids and two grandkids, you've been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don't think we're going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully and kick you out," he argued.

What happened 25-years ago:

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986
Signed into law by President Ronald Reagan on November 6, 1986

In brief the act:

required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status.
made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit unauthorized immigrants.
granted amnesty to certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants.
granted amnesty to illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously.

45 posted on 12/02/2011 2:49:20 PM PST by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: presidio9

If the choice is between Newt Gingrich and Barack Obama, I would rather see Obama get reelected. I think Obama would be better on immigration and that is saying something.


48 posted on 12/02/2011 2:56:25 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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He’s pandering, plain and simple.
I am tired of all the catering and caving to ethnic minorities, especially ones who have blatantly broken our laws.
The illegals are the ones who have torn apart their own families. Our laws have not done this and Newt knows it.
There is a subtle racism in giving preferential treatment to an ethnic group, as if patronizingly acknowledging they are not capable of more honest, ethical behavior.


51 posted on 12/02/2011 4:15:08 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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If you think Sowell agrees with Gingrich on immigration then maybe you'd better read this
52 posted on 12/02/2011 4:31:03 PM PST by jpsb
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