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Newt Gingrich’s ‘humane’ immigration policy shows he has better grasp on issue than GOP rivals
New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, December 1 2011 | Andrea Tantaros

Posted on 12/02/2011 12:33:07 PM PST by presidio9

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Andrea Tantaros is not my favorite, because she misses things, but she makes several of the same points many of us here have been making.

Here are a few mistakes, and things she left out:

Thomas Sowell agreed with much of Gingrich's plan, but thought it was too much of a political risk at this time.

Gingrich was a leading opponent of the DREAM Act. His plan would allow only minors who were brought to this country by their parents to gain citizenship through military service. It is not DREAM Act II.

Tantaros neglects to mention that none of the other candidates actually HAS a comprehensive immigration plan. They are content to demonize and take pot shots from the peanut gallery. This type of political gamesmanship from Democrats is the primary reason that we have not been able to fix Social Security or balance the budget.

1 posted on 12/02/2011 12:33:16 PM PST by presidio9
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We don't need “a comprehensive immigration plan”.

We have immigration laws that must be enforced.

Claiming we must revise laws is just another way to avoid doing what must be done: enforcing the existent laws.

2 posted on 12/02/2011 12:40:26 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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Once we have 11 million permanent legal residents who cannot vote, how long does anyone think it will take before granting them full citizenship (with the ability to vote for Democrats) becomes the next big civil rights issue?


3 posted on 12/02/2011 12:43:54 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: presidio9
Tantaros neglects to mention that none of the other candidates actually HAS a comprehensive immigration plan.

Cain does. He want's to electicute them and feed them to the gators.

4 posted on 12/02/2011 12:44:31 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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And his view on climate change (along with Nancy Pelosi) proves he has a better grasp on that particular issue than does GOP rivals…puke.


5 posted on 12/02/2011 12:45:21 PM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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Pie in the sky nonsense.


6 posted on 12/02/2011 12:47:49 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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“smarts ... guts to say them out loud. Gingrich is a guy who often says what is impolitic ... refreshing, especially when most politicians are afraid to buck the status quo”

“If you have come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period,” Gingrich has said.

You ought to go home. Now there’s a profile in courage.
(But you won’t? Aw, c’mon! No? Por favor! Pretty please?)


7 posted on 12/02/2011 12:51:37 PM PST by tumblindice (The Cabbage Patch doll speaks)
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“Immigration is a great thing. We want the Chinese scientists, the patent creators, the Andrew Carnegies and the Greek diner owners ...”

This article reeks.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 12:53:46 PM PST by tumblindice (The Cabbage Patch doll speaks)
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Gingrich: If you have succeeded in evading the law (enforced by Leftist wimps who pander for "Hispanic" votes) for a while, you and all your progeny are now "Americans," with all the rights of people who came here to escape your Third World corruption and violence, you are welcome. No thanks, Newt. Go back and write another trashy "history" book, you traitor.

This country was founded by rebellious Anglo-Americans who fought to the death against big government, fool. No Hispanic nation has ever stood for our values. They had their chance. They had their own countries. We don't want them ruining ours.

9 posted on 12/02/2011 12:53:57 PM PST by hellbender
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Once they have legal status, e.g. red card, then courts or executive order can give them citizens more easily. In anycase, this would further increase illegal immigration.

Fence and e-verify would largely solve issue. We don’t need amnesty plan.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 12:54:13 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane)
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To: SatinDoll
Claiming we must revise laws is just another way to avoid doing what must be done: enforcing the existent laws.

Lucky for all, this is Gingrich's second priority after sealing the border. Unfortunately, simply enforcing the existing laws will not solve the problem by itself.

11 posted on 12/02/2011 12:57:52 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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Claiming we must revise laws is just another way to avoid doing what must be done: enforcing the existent laws.

RINO Newt is all over the map on immigration. His pro-amnesty supporters are giddy that his latest position is pro-amnesty even though he has said in the past that he is NOT for amnesty.

I am not for amnesty for anyone. I am for a path to legality for those people whose ties are so deeply into America that it would truly be tragic to try and rip their family apart."
~Newt Gingrich 2011

Anything less than requiring people who are working here illegally to return home to apply for a worker visa is amnesty.
~Newt Gingrich 2006

12 posted on 12/02/2011 1:00:53 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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They’re gonna sell the beltway turd if it’s the last thing they do.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 1:02:27 PM PST by SpaceBar
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And his view on climate change (along with Nancy Pelosi) proves he has a better grasp on that particular issue than does GOP rivals…puke.

Like a lot of very smart people, prior to 2009 Gingrich based his opinions on research that have since been determined to have been falsified by East Anglia University. He has since reevaluated his position on climate change. It may not be very popular on this website, but it is the correct one: "We do not know if the planet is getting warming, or his we are causing it."

14 posted on 12/02/2011 1:03:07 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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Fence and e-verify would largely solve issue.

Everyone agrees that sealing the border is the top priority. EVerify will have no effect on the millions of illegals who are not employees but independant contractors, working for individuals as baby sitters, gardeners, delivery boys, livery cab drivers, nannies, prostitutes, maids, caddies, handy men, the list is endless.

Furthermore, the only individuals that Gingrich is offering legal status to are people who have been here for years, are supporting themselves, have health insurance, pay taxes, have relatives who are themselves citizens, and have no criminal record. Suppose we actually WERE able to take away any possiblilty for these people to work. Do you really think that their large Catholic families won't just take them in and provide from them anyway? Short of hunting them down and deporting them, they are not leaving.

15 posted on 12/02/2011 1:11:40 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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I for one am sick and tired of this paradigm that it is “inhumane” to insist that illegal immigrants go home.

We don’t want to torture them. We don’t want to abuse them. We don’t want to turn them into slave labor or chain them to posts in the desert to die of thirst. We really don’t want anything bad to happen to them at all.

We simply want them to go home.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 1:15:54 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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And if you've been here for, say, 25 years and pose no threat, you should be allowed to stay, not forcibly be sent back.

I have a feeling we're not really talking about people who have been here for at least 25 years. Most of those were probably amnestied already under the 1986 law signed by RWR.

The 25 year requirement is going to be reduced after the election. The question is to what? Five, ten??

17 posted on 12/02/2011 1:18:01 PM PST by freespirited (Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business & degenerates into a racket. -- Hoffer)
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You are unbelievable. I just finished documenting why this comment was dihonest on another thread, so you quit there and resumed your spamming elsewhere.

The "worker visa" visa that Gingrich is referring to there is a non-existant proposal as part of a 25 page document he published in 2006 in opposition to the DREAM Act.

The is the sort of thing James Axelrod likes to do, like when he ignored the truth and played McCain's "The fundamentals of the economy" quote endlessly.

18 posted on 12/02/2011 1:18:05 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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The 25 year requirement is going to be reduced after the election. The question is to what? Five, ten??

Actually, none of this is really up to any president, Republican or Democrat.

19 posted on 12/02/2011 1:19:40 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
We don’t want to torture them. We don’t want to abuse them. We don’t want to turn them into slave labor or chain them to posts in the desert to die of thirst. We really don’t want anything bad to happen to them at all. We simply want them to go home.

Agreed. But what if they don't?

20 posted on 12/02/2011 1:20:56 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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