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To: Waryone; MHGinTN; DBeers

Im not a psychologist nor have I ever claimed to be. I have no idea if homosexuality is a mental disorder beyond my own gut feeling which means practically nothing to anyone else. I have no training or education in that field of study. Im simply questioning why many are claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle choice” while others claim its a “disorder.” I’ve only been here a few months and I’ve seen people claiming both things.

I just simply don’t see how it can be both. Maybe Im missing something, but I just don’t understand the logic here. Are you saying I can wake up tomorrow and choose to be a schizophrenic?
If a man suddenly announces he is gay, is he making a choice of free will to be gay, or has he acquired a mental disorder? That’s my question.


49 posted on 11/21/2011 2:02:00 AM PST by floridarunner01
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To: floridarunner01
IMHO, homosexuality is not unlike alcoholism. It's a psychological (and if you will, a spiritual) malady that elicits deviant behavior and compulsions.

Whether one acts on or resists those compulsions is ultimately a matter of choice.

54 posted on 11/21/2011 7:26:47 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: floridarunner01

I’m not an expert but anyone can tell you that schizophrenia is not the only mental illness in the world. And schizophrenia is not the same type of disease as tardive dyskinesia, kleptomania, or post traumatic stress syndrome even though they are all mental illnesses. As I’ve already mentioned, each one is different in origin and type. You are the only person here that I’ve seen trying to equate homosexuality with schizophrenia.

Homosexuality is much more like the mental disease kleptomania or obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). They have a compulsion that they can choose to resist. Just like kleptomaniacs or people with OCD can be taught to resist their compulsions, homosexuals can be taught as well. Today, homosexuals give in to the compulsions that they used to have to resist years ago. Now, since they are coddled and protected, homosexuals are encouraged to think that their aberrant mental state is something to be celebrated and they have abandoned trying to resist their degenerate desires.

The reason you can’t understand is that you don’t understand what mental illness really means. The phrase mental illness just means one thing to you — schizophrenia, even though the rest of the world understands that there are many types and forms of mental illness. But, if it does not fit your ill conceived idea of mental illness, to you it can’t possibly be a mental illness. That is why this is such a problem for you.

In other words, if a man suddenly announces he is gay, he is giving in to his mental illness. He is making a choice not to resist his compulsions anymore.


66 posted on 11/21/2011 10:43:05 AM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: floridarunner01

Homosexuality IS both an aberration and a choice.
Substitute pyromania for homosexuality.
With pyromania there is an overwhelming, sick, urge to see things burn. The experience, to pyromaniacs, is almost orgasmic.
BUT-the pyromaniac has a CHOICE to ACT on these urges, or not,just as the homosexual does.
Choice is a factor in human behavior. If you know that your urges are counter those of established norms in society, and you do not want to be ‘abnormal’, you RESIST the urges or suffer the consequences.
You CHOOSE whether or not to set the fire, or act on homosexual impulses.
The current problem in society is that those afflicted with any number of abnormalicies have attempted to control SOCIETY instead of themselves; effectively eliminating the consequences of their abnormal behavior and allowing them to enable their ‘sickness’ instead of fighting it.
Thus we have the situational ethics and ‘normalization’of homosexuality ( and other aberrations-pedophilia is next). That normalization, and PC, has put sensible people in the position of choosing between making sure no one feels ‘offended’ and condemning criminal mental illness. And- too often- not offending the guilty is more important than the criminal sickness.
When there are no more mental illnesses will there be a need for psychiatrists?


70 posted on 11/22/2011 8:57:27 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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