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Liberal arts vs. science majors
Charleston (WV) Daily Mail ^ | November 15, 2011 | Don Surber

Posted on 11/15/2011 8:59:04 AM PST by Mustang Driver

Occupy Wall Street had the liberal arts majors camped out in tents — down by the river — protesting the idea of having to pay back their student loans.

So where are the science and business majors? They traded in their dorms for life in foreclosed McMansions out in California. They are living large, enjoying the Jacuzzi and vino as they work toward degrees for which there is a market after college — at annual starting salaries that in some cases are double what a liberal arts student can expect.

From CNBC: “The finances of subdivision life are compelling: the university estimates yearly on-campus room and board at $13,720 a year, compared with roughly $7,000 off-campus. Sprawl rats sharing a McMansion — with each getting a bedroom and often a private bath — pay $200 to $350 a month each, depending on the amenities.”

So these students have figured out how to cut their housing bills in half while greatly improving enhancing their lifestyles. And who are they? From the article: Heather Alarab, a management major. Jill Foster, applied math. Patricia Dugan, management. Gurbir Dhillon, molecular cell biology. Katilyn McIntire, human biology.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dirty; hippies; smelly

1 posted on 11/15/2011 8:59:07 AM PST by Mustang Driver
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To: Mustang Driver
Degree Requirements: Women's & Gender Studies

Women’s and Gender Studies Foundations
One of the following: Feminist Theories or Feminist Philosophy
Two courses from each of the following focus areas in WGS: “Gender Culture and Representation” and “Gender and Social Institutions.”
Capstone Experience (3 hours)
elective requirement: at least 9 credit hours in any 300/400 level Women’s and Gender Studies courses.


I can't imagine why math, science, engineering, and business majors are paid more than someone who has contemplated their own feelings about these issues for four or more years. It must be the bigotry of the rich.

2 posted on 11/15/2011 9:06:33 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Mustang Driver

My Business and hubby’s IT major’s have financed a comfortable lifestyle.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 9:08:39 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: Mustang Driver

It’s also a case of ‘Liberal Arts’ being tainted with all these Studies fields. It used to be stuff like English and Music which are perfectly honorable fields of study.


4 posted on 11/15/2011 9:11:28 AM PST by Borges
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To: Mustang Driver

This is the problem with America. We lose our history, philosphy, art music, literature in favor of people who manipulate concepts without any regard or understanding of the ethics involved.

We have forgotten the Rule of Law. Clinton, Wall Street, bankers, CEO’s in whom arrogance and ignorage meld.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 9:14:56 AM PST by amihow
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Stop Goofing Off And Donate


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6 posted on 11/15/2011 9:22:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Mustang Driver

AND This from one of wise.

“You amuse me: You’re like someone who’s afraid that the majority will think he is prescribing useless subjects. It is no easy task—indeed it’s very difficult—to realize that that in every soul there is an instrument that is purified and rekindled by such subjects when it has been blinded and destroyed by other ways of life, an instrument that it is more important to preserve than ten thousand eyes, since only with it can the truth be seen.” — Plato, The Republic


7 posted on 11/15/2011 9:31:20 AM PST by amihow
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To: Mustang Driver

Almost all of the Liberal Arts Degrees are nothing more than “Make Work” projects for people with Liberal Arts Degrees.

It is like someone teaching you how to do something useless so you can turn around and teach someone else how to the do the same useless thing. Oh it is not LIKE that, It is EXACTLY THAT.

Liberal Arts degress arose from the “need” to make sure that people comming from colleges were “well-rounded”. And it was when it was something like a philosophy class here or ther or a critical thinking class or studying the “classics” but it has become so “politicaly correct” that it has become completely and totally useless.


8 posted on 11/15/2011 9:31:48 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Mustang Driver
Liberal Arts Major Pictures, Images and Photos
9 posted on 11/15/2011 9:38:29 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Borges
It’s also a case of ‘Liberal Arts’ being tainted with all these Studies fields. It used to be stuff like English and Music which are perfectly honorable fields of study.

"Liberal Arts" today are not the "Liberal Arts" of the 1950's.

Back then, the objective of a Liberal Arts education was to enable the student to understand philosophy, logic, rhetoric, and argumentation, along with a strong foundation in science and mathematics. A Liberal Arts student was supposed to be able to read complex material with comprehension, compose arguments and opinions with logic, and argue his opinions with persuasiveness.

Now it's just indoctrination into victimology.

10 posted on 11/15/2011 9:39:51 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Mustang Driver

At Arizona State University, there’s now a “School of Transborder Studies” (which considers national borders to be just “lines”) - 100% leftist indoctrination taught there. They have a new course - “Race, Migration and the Musical Film” (I’m not making that up) and it satisfies TWO General Education requirements!


11 posted on 11/15/2011 9:55:17 AM PST by Tenlein
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To: Mustang Driver

My engineering degree has provided a comfortable lifestyle for me and my family and it looks like it has provided a comfortable retirement.

One son has a Pharmacy degree. He also has a lot of student loans, but can easily afford them with enough left over for a more than comfortable lifestyle. My other son has an Engineering degree with no student loans. He doesn’t make as much money, but also has no loan payments.

My next goal is to get my grandkids into careers that can provide them with comfortable lifestyles. Maybe after that I can change the world. Right now I am just worried about the part that is important to me.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 10:06:05 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

Engineering degrees all the way. I went to an all eng. school and petroleum degrees command close to $100,000 starting salary....not bad for 4/5 years of hard work.


13 posted on 11/15/2011 10:11:20 AM PST by colinhester
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To: Mustang Driver

I don’t have any problem with a liberal arts education if it’s done well. My nephew recently graduated from one of the top technical schools in the nation. He was hired by a big oil company. His first job? Go to school for a year with the company. What? That degree didn’t teach him everything he needed to know? The problem with liberal arts classes is that 99% of them are poorly taught.


14 posted on 11/15/2011 10:37:33 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Mustang Driver
Of course the science majors are going to be swamped with millions of Indian and Chinese competitors who will work harder and for a fraction of the cost of their US counterparts. Might be better to go into plumbing or to a local technical school than to a university these days.

I think bloom is soon to be off the "higher education" rose as costs continue to outstrip returns. I remember when, when all else failed and your esoteric PHD got you nowhere you could still go get an MBA. Then there were too many MBAs for the jobs, so everybody defaulted to law schools, which naturally imploded the legal market. Nope, forget all this credentialing. We need rapid technical training right after high school. People can always pursue education, as contrasted with training, as an avocation. Or go into the medicine racket.
15 posted on 11/15/2011 11:01:29 AM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Snickering Hound
Let me be the first:


16 posted on 11/15/2011 12:18:35 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: GraceG

I have a liberal arts degree. :) Major in History.


17 posted on 11/15/2011 4:28:18 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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