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To: neverdem
even if the traveler’s home state has very different criteria for awarding a permit.

Thing is...they don't. They all have the same fundamental criteria: register, and don't be a criminal. The differences stem from varying degrees and tactics for infringing on the fundamental right, and thus are indefensible.

Every state that issues possession/carry permits does so contingent upon, at core, a criminal background check. This is rendered nigh unto moot by the federal NICS check, which does the same thing. Some states may dig into more records in an impassioned attempt to suppress the right. Some states may tack on other criteria such as training (to wit: "The Four Rules" and basic mechanical operation of a point-and-click interface, rendered as complex and time-consuming as possible), background checks (as if some applicant might not know three people willing to vouch for him), usage restrictions (now that he's got it, if he's going to abuse it a few words on paper won't stop him), and other high-horse heavy-handed tactics for discouraging people from an enumerated inalienable right. Fact is, regardless of the differences in licensing, so long as there IS a license there is NOTHING of substance rendering an out-of-state permit inferior to an in-state one.

I have a carry permit for NY and GA. Short of "Constitutional carry", there is no meaningful difference. Both were issued subject to FBI and other background checks, fingerprints included. Both are monitored for legality. Both allow carry/transport of dangerous machines which are, for all practical purposes, fungible. Both regard objects which are already subject to strict commerce regulations. Short of a differing collection of hoops to jump thru to obtain and retain one, there is no practical difference.

And that leaves "Constitutional carry" states. There is no reason Vermont should be left out. Fact is, the whole point of documented licensing for carry/possession is an unconstitutional preemptive presumption of guilt over innocence. While the famous case excusing felons from CCW registration on grounds of 5th Amendment violation was overturned, methinks the premise remains true: save for a vanishingly small margin, anyone who applies for a permit is exactly who should NOT be required to have one, and anyone who should be refused one (i.e.: convicted felons et al) has an enumerated right against self-incrimination - ergo the whole process is pointless. So residents of Vermont, Alaska, and Wyoming who would, as residents elsewhere, have no trouble getting a permit as required (save for malicious suppression of rights) are as normal American citizens due the presumption of innocence, have already been in all likelihood already subject to relevant criminal background checks, and thus as citizens enjoy the right (at minimum) to exercise their RKBA in any state insofar as any licensed resident thereof may, having been extended full faith and credit in their home state's right to possess lawful items obtained in a lawful manner, and carry them in a lawful manner according to the host state's fair regulations.

That a Leftist/socialist/oppressive legal doctrine has been entrenched for a prolonged period does not render it a Conservative value.

49 posted on 11/15/2011 6:45:55 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ctdonath2
So residents of Vermont, Alaska, and Wyoming who would

Hey, Hey! Don't leave us Zonies out of that elite group!

53 posted on 11/15/2011 8:38:37 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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