Posted on 11/14/2011 9:34:49 AM PST by Eleutheria5
Iran, worried by possible sabotage or an attack at the hands of Israel, has raised to five years the jail term for the crime of visiting Israel.
State television reported on Monday that the parliament approved an amendment that ups the jail term to 2-5 years from the current three months.
The original ban on traveling to the Jewish state, usually referred to by Iran as the "Zionist regime,” was inaugurated by the Shah in 1972, who did not want Iranians to visit communist countries.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s regime has arrested a number of Iranians, executing some of them, for allegedly spying for Israel.
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Frickin Aryans...
The Shah thought Israel was a communist state? I thought
the Shah’s regime and Israel were buds..
The original ban on traveling to the Jewish state, usually referred to by Iran as the "Zionist regime,” was inaugurated by the Shah in 1972, who did not want Iranians to visit communist countries.
Is the above correct?
If there was a "ban on travelling to the Jewish state inaugurated by the Shah in 1972", then I'd like to know how come our Iranian Jewish neighbours in Iran, and other ordinary Iranians, were able to freely travel to Israel during that time?!
As far as I know Iran officially recognised Israel in 1950 and until 1980. Thereafter, Khomeini's (Islamic) regime withdrew the official recognition.
In fact, I thought Iran during the late Shah was the 1st (maybe 2nd) country in the ME to officially recognise Israel after Israel's formation in 1948. Also, Iran had close ties w/ Israel during those years, even when Israel was at war with Arab states. Actually, IIRC, the Shah was a key person who encouraged Anwar Sadat (Egypt) to make peace with Israel?
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I'm surprised it doesn't merit a death penalty, like Jordan and the palestinian authority apply for selling land to a Jew.
Israel a “communist” country? That’s a weird statement, since Israel does not allow non-Jews to immigrate there. And, Israel’s legal system is a combination of English common law, civil law and religious (Jewish) law.
The closest form of “socialism” I can think of, which was rather popular in the 60s & 70s, was the Kibbutz movement. Some of them I’ve heard were more than secular, bordering on being atheists.
Huh? Do explain...
I was talking about “Law of Return”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return
The Law of Return is just one way to become a citizen of Israel. Israel also has a normal immigration path like all western nations.
Yes, I am aware of that. But, the requirements for “immigration” to Israel are stringent.
“Israel’s Proclamation of Independence states:
“The State of Israel will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel;”
As for acquiring citizenship, I think the info below is pretty accurate:
1. Nationality by residence in Israel
Subject to certain qualifications, this section of the law grants Israeli citizenship to former Palestinian citizens who are currently residents of Israel and have lived in Israel since its creation on May 14, 1948, or have entered Israel legally between that time and July 14, 1952, the date the Nationality Law went into effect.
2. Nationality by birth
Nationality by reason of birth is given to any person whose father or mother was an Israeli national at the time of his birth. This provision holds true regardless of where the person in question may happen to have been born.
3. Naturalization by birth on Israeli territory in addition to 5 years immediate prior residence in Israel.
This provision grants Israeli nationality to persons who are born on Israeli territory who meet these qualifications: apply for Israeli citizenship between their 18th and 21st birthdays, have 5 consecutive years of residence in Israel immediately prior to filing a request for citizenship, have no criminal convictions for violation of security regulations, and have not been sentenced to jail for 5 years or more for violation of any other type of law.
4. Naturalization
A person 18 years of age or older may acquire Israeli nationality by naturalization if he meets these criteria: (1) is currently in Israel, (2) has been in Israel for 3 of the 5 preceding years, (3) intends to settle in the country (4) has some knowledge of Hebrew (former Palestinian citizens are exempt from this provision), (5) renounces any and all foreign nationalities, and (6) takes an oath of loyalty to the State of Israel. Completion of all of the above requirements is not essential in all instances, however, as the Minister of the Interior at his discretion has the power (for a special reason) to waive requirements (1), (2),(4), and (5) above.
5. By grant from the Minister of the Interior to certain categories of minors.
The law provides, in addition, for a discretionary grant of citizenship to minors who are not Israeli nationals but who are residents of Israel.
http://israpundit.blogspot.com/2002/09/digging-deeper-israeli-citizenship-and.html
I don’t get your point. You desire that Israel (or the USA) should have open borders? Do you know that Israel has taken in refugees from all over the globe that aren’t Jewish? Do you know there are American Christians who have become citizens of Israel.
My point (#6) was in reference to the article stating that the Shah inaugurated a ban on travelling to Israel because he didn’t want Iranians to visit “communist countries”. The point is that Israel since its formation and because of its laws (including those for immigration & acquisition of Israeli citizenship) is Not & has never been a “communist” country!
Yes. I see.
But it wasn’t for lack of trying! Israel, even more than the USA, has a socialist establishment with all the danger and troubles that implies. It’s less than it used to be, but they’re still there.
The late-Shah accorded Israel an unofficial embassy status in Tehran and the Israeli representative all the privileges, diplomatic status and respect of an Ambassador.
Having been there on several occasions (so long ago), I remember the video security camera which was rare in those days and an intercom connection to their security before they let you in and if I remember correctly a narrow metal (steel?) door in the outer wall of a modest enough building on a narrowish street.
Eventually taken over by Yasser Arafart as his Tehran office after the Khomeini revolution.
The Israeli “embassy” in Tehran provided visas for people tavelling to Israel. No objections by the Shah other than not “officially” recognizing the Israeli Mission as an Embassy.
It was provided on a separate piece of paper and not stamped into Iranian passports. Not a demand by the late-Shah but by those wanting a visa and later travelling on the same passport to other countries including Aab ones, who would refuse entry if an Israeli visa was in it.
The probable link to the Communist comment is that Soviet Jews/Emigrants were often connected to the banned Communist Tudeh Party and a free flow of potential Soviet spies was made as difficult as possible for security reasons.
Israel’s emigrants/agents from the Soviet Union inside Israel made quarantining Soviet plants meeting Iranians in Israel very difficult, so some obstacles were in place.
Thanks FARS for #s 14 & 15.
Non-Jews can and do immigrate here. It’s just not subsidized the way Jewish immigration is.
Thanks for the info.
Just to clarify, my understanding is that “permanent” residency (permanent immigration, before acquiring Israeli citizenship) granted to non-Jews in Israel is entirely discretionary (by the Minister of Interior). Even if an applicant fulfills certain prerequisites. Is this correct?
For the above, I am not referring to those born in Israel, or those (Palestinians) who can prove that they were already there before 1948, or legally entered Israel between 1948 and 1952, or those who have Jewish lineage and can prove it.
I realize there are migrant workers (not permanent immigrants) in Israel from different parts of the world. Also, there has been an influx of refugees, for example, from Africa in recent yrs. But that is a different status to permanent residency, isn’t it?
The idea behind the creation of Israel was to form a “Jewish” state specifically for Jewish people. Hence, immigration laws that support that idea & the basic foundation of Israel, right?
For the most part. There are also a lot of Russians who came here with bogus papers saying they were Jewish, and now walk around with big crucifixes, form anti-Jewish, sometimes neo-Nazi clubs, and/or are involved in organized crime. Sometimes I think this country has a death wish to rival America’s and even France’s.
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