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City, Feds Dispute Spiraling Cost of San Francisco Subway Project
fox ^ | 11-7-11 | Claudia Cowan

Posted on 11/07/2011 5:59:02 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB

Voters approved the project in 2003, to replace a freeway damaged in the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. Back then, the cost was $647 million. Today, the price tag is $1.6 billion, with the lion's share of the funding still to come from the federal government.

In July, San Francisco's Civil Grand Jury concluded the project was poorly designed, won't meet projected ridership levels, and, as the scathing title of its report says, costs "too much money for too little benefit."

At about $1 billion per mile, the Central Subway has become a driving force in Tuesday's mayoral election.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; broke; cost; debt; friscochoochoo; rail; sanfrancisco; subway; willie
billion a mile...better be paved in gold.
1 posted on 11/07/2011 5:59:08 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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“At about $1 billion per mile, the Central Subway has become a driving force in Tuesday’s mayoral election.”

Just think of it as Big Dig II and hope they don’t pay off the contractors to tell everyone the footings are secure...you’ll see dead people.


2 posted on 11/07/2011 6:06:24 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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California’s bullet train has the same drawbacks... with projected costs at $26 billion per mile.

California’s morons can’t complete a project on time and under budget.


3 posted on 11/07/2011 6:21:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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... won't meet projected ridership levels

They mean not enough well-to-do paying customers will ride it. The problem with all public transportation in San Francisco is that it is heavily subsidized by federal taxes, and to a lesser extent local taxes. The fare-box covers up to a third, at best, of running costs. Yank away the subsidies, and it all collapses.

I always thought this two-mile subway was a bad idea. People get to Chinatown just fine on buses. Heck, it's an easy walk from the Caltrain station for the two miles into Chinatown. City "leaders" think tax money grows on trees for easy picking.

4 posted on 11/07/2011 6:24:14 PM PST by roadcat
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The problem with all public transportation in San Francisco is that it is filled with typical San Franciscans.


5 posted on 11/07/2011 7:00:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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Yes and no. Caltrain brings riders up the peninsula from San Jose and beyond. A portion of those riders transfer to Muni light-rail and buses. Both Caltrain and Muni are heavily subsidized and at risk of going broke. BART subway trains bring people from all over the Bay Area, and a portion of those riders also transfer to Muni.

Muni (San Francisco run Municipal Railway) buses and above-ground light-rail are largely used by San Franciscan residents. Students and seniors pay hardly anything. The remaining paying customers are regular working people who would balk at any fare increases, despite the fact that the fare is only a third of actual expenses for carrying a rider.

When I was young, there were lots of limosines (called Jitneys) that would pick you up at bus stops for a small premium over a Muni fare. The City killed that business by over-regulating it, because they wanted a monopoly with Muni. I miss those Jitneys, clean, comfortable and fast!

6 posted on 11/07/2011 7:44:18 PM PST by roadcat
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I wonder if the Muni rail cars will have a "no shirts, no pants, no underwear, no service" policy?

Nudity banned at San Francisco restaurants

7 posted on 11/07/2011 7:55:35 PM PST by CedarDave
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I wonder if the Muni rail cars will have a "no shirts, no pants, no underwear, no service" policy?

Why would they, when it is so obviously a naked ploy to increase "ridership."

I'll go hide now.

8 posted on 11/07/2011 11:05:40 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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