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To: bunkerhill7
Rogue waves were not thought to exist by all educated observers and scientists until the Draupner Wave damaged a North Sea platform on January 1, 1995.

Fleischmann and Pons presented cold fusion to the public in March 1989 6 years before any reputable authority would agree that Rogue waves were real.

What that meant is Physics stood still a full 6 years before the first inkling of periodically stronger waves could be found under normal conditions ~ one type of research deals in what is titled the nonlinear Schrödinger equation (NLS).

High powered mathematicians, if not physicists are working on the rogue wave phenomenon because they are a very real danger to world commerce.

Whatever the full body of math we'll devise for these waves it should also apply to wave forms of any dimension ~ including electrons, protons and neutrons ~ maybe even quarks.

34 posted on 11/03/2011 7:01:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“What that meant is Physics stood still a full 6 years before the first inkling of periodically stronger waves could be found under normal conditions ~ one type of research deals in what is titled the nonlinear Schrödinger equation (NLS). “

No, they did not. You should stop getting your information from Wikipedia. The Navy and the Air Force had surface measuring satellite systems in place many years before several were declassified that had measured large waves. They simply didn’t know, and still do not know, how they are formed. They also had ships and subs that measured large waves. Everyone knew they existed but since they were seemingly random, and had caused perhaps only a few losses each year, few corporations were willing to invest in counter measures. It became a dead issue until the entire industry got organized and realized that their losses were greater than they knew. Once the money factor was known research into what and where began.

To say physics stood still is just plain hyperbole, but, then again, you believe Rossi’s cold fusion device is real so what could anyone expect of you.


41 posted on 11/03/2011 7:20:10 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: muawiyah

Your line of thinking is incomplete. There is no principle in your hypothesis from preventing such processes to occur with other compositions, be it Lithium, Iron, etc.. The Earth’s core has plenty of hydrogen - as evidenced by volcanic emissions - and plenty of iron, nickel, etc.. The geologic history of Earth is quite consistent with current conventional science. If LENR is actually occurring in Rossi’s reactor, it would occur in the Earth’s mantel and other planets and the geological behavior of planets would be quite different as what is observed today. The same applies to Rendell Mill’s hydrino hypothesis since it implies an interstellar space whose behavior would differ greatly from what we observe.

Also, there is some disagreement amongst scientists which element has the most stable isotopes: is it Iron or Nickel. More and more scientists lean toward Nickel. To go from Nickel to elements of higher atomic numbers (such as copper) is - overall - endothermic, not exothermic. The coulombic barrier between Nickel and hydrogen is greater than between, say, Sodium and hydrogen; the fusion of Na and H is exothermic and it is with Ni-H.

At best Rossi’s work would make a mild contribution to metalurgy, not LENR.


42 posted on 11/03/2011 7:36:12 PM PDT by barracuda1412
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To: muawiyah

Rossi said he tried to replicate Fleischmann and Pons and no workee.


58 posted on 11/03/2011 10:03:55 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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