Data? We don't need no stinking data! We've got computer models.
Posted on 10/31/2011 7:47:22 PM PDT by neverdem
Looming gaps in satellite coverage challenge sustained climate observation.
Climate scientists warn that critical gaps in climate data could open up after the current generation of Earth-observation satellites comes to the end of its life, with the next generation nowhere near ready to take over.
The problem is exacerbated by the lack of an adequate replacement for a pair of Earth-observation satellites, the Orbiting Carbon Observatory and Glory, which failed on launch in the past two years.
Earth-observation programmes will fail to provide the data continuity required for climate science unless they are more adequately managed and supported, Kevin Trenberth, a senior researcher at the US National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, told the World Climate Research Programme conference in Denver, Colorado, this week. "We cannot manage what we can't measure," he says.
Time gap The US Earth Observing System run by NASA comprises polar-orbiting and low-inclination satellites that make long-term global observations of the land surface, biosphere, atmosphere and oceans. The polar-orbiting satellites Terra, Aqua and Aura will probably shut down in 2015, and the next generation of polar-orbiting satellites is unlikely to be fully deployed by then. The lack of temporal overlap will have serious consequences for the homogeneity and continuity of climate data sets, Trenberth and eight co-authors state in a white paper submitted to the meeting.
On 28 October, NASA is set to launch the National Polar-orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite System Preparatory Project, a prototype of the new generation of satellites, Joint Polar Satellite System (JPSS), that will be the backbone of US space-based weather and climate observations. But owing to budgetary constraints, the first fully operational satellite of the JPSS, originally planned for launch in 2015, has been delayed until later in the decade.
As observing systems change from one generation of satellites...
(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...
Yeah, and you can't mismanage what you cant mis-measure.
I find his statement a source of comfort and reassurance.
Didn't the BoD do an AA hire of some woman that shut the door to papers challenging Algor & Co?
Sounds like they are concerned that they won’t be able to obtain the necessary data to beat us over the head with.
Is this an attempt to make people believe your um “data”. I know, why not simply install more temperature gauges by the fire departments vehicle exhaust? How many times did I look at my home gauges and see several degrees difference? Let me tell ya.. Enough to see the flaws in your “data”.
Manage the climate ? What arrogance.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/23errors.html
See the article titled “Trenberth’s Twenty-three Scientific Errors.”
We don’t need any steekin satellites we already know what the temperature will be in 30 years down to second decimal place.
They don’t need any satellites. Just give little thermometers to all government employees. Have them go home and take the temperature each day and call it into the center. If they don’t take it or call it in each day, dock their pay for a whole day.
Fantastic idea the guy has, if we can’t measure it, we can’t manage it.....lovely!
They don’t actually want satellite data; it is much easier to manipulate ground based data.
The lack of temporal overlap will have serious consequences for the homogeneity and continuity of climate data sets...
Well, the so-called "climate scientists" have shown they cannot be trusted with data to begin with. They cherry-pick, alter, and ignore data to support a political agenda. So if they don't get their precious data for a few months, no big deal.
I don’t understand their problem!
They can continue to just make up the data; like they’ve been doing for decades!
Thanks for the link.
>> “Was Trenberth part of the Climategate cabal?” <<
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After reading his comments in the emails, I came to believe that he was the one that ratted them out on the email zip file.
He always seemed to question things.
They are always claiming that Weather is not Climate.
Instead, we have poorly sited weather stations that don't cover rural areas, unless you count parking lots, airports and tops of buildings next to HVAC exhaust as rural.
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