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How Freddie Mac Splashed Cash to Halt Regulation (Flashback Newt Gingrich sold out for $300,000)
CNBC ^ | December 8, 2011

Posted on 10/31/2011 7:23:12 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
The article concentrated on Freddie. There were too many Dems involved in Fannie.

The Congressional Black Caucus went out of their way to defend Franklin Raines & Co. (As well as GSEs in general).

Gorelick, [Smith]Barney Frank, Dodd, etc.

21 posted on 10/31/2011 8:12:35 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

Article didn’t mention one democrat.

Also forgot to mention that they were throwing around OUR money.

just an oversight I gues.


22 posted on 10/31/2011 8:19:08 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
Barney Frank Responds To Newt Gingrich’s Calls For Imprisonment

This sloganized story is in response to the above attack on Frank by Newt a couple weeks ago.

Frank had addressed other “Republican Failures” in re to the crisis.

"Since 2001, the Bush Administration issued 34 warnings to Congress about the need to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before it caused substantial economic turmoil in the financial markets. However, they met continual opposition by Congressional Democrats who feared that tighter regulations on lenders would disqualify low-income applicants from affordable housing.".....in 2008, the Bush Administration pressed Congress harder than ever by issuing 17 warnings in just 6 short months about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

Can't twist those facts.. ;)

23 posted on 10/31/2011 8:19:52 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Bigtigermike
This article is just a hit piece on Republicans. They use a few carefully selected facts and exclude most of the relevant information behind the collapse of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac.

Did you notice Barney Frank's name was nowhere in the article?

This is just a smear job and a hit piece. Conservatives and Republicans should have been more aggressive in opposing Fannie and Freddie. But the people who actively caused the problem were ALL Democrats.

24 posted on 10/31/2011 8:22:43 AM PDT by detective
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To: Bigtigermike
... prominent conservatives, including Gingrich...

The man who pushed GATT/WTO membership through the House during a very rare post-election lame duck session because the incoming Republican majority wouldn't pass it is not a conservative.

The biggest pom pom waving supporter of NAFTA in the House is not a conservative.

The man who wants to expand NAFTA to all of South and Central America is not a conservative.

The man who in 2005 recommended we increase funding of the UN Human Rights Commission and UN peacekeeping operations is not a conservative.

The man who said "The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution" is not a conservative.

Newt Gingrich is not a conservative.

25 posted on 10/31/2011 8:29:20 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Bigtigermike
Remember the enemy is Obama and the Left, but the Left loves to watch the Right fight among themselves and hopefully eat their own. Conservatives will decide who will be the nomination..or will the media decide that?

What's important: Remember Gorelick? She had no background in finance, she joined Fannie Mae in 1997 as vice chair and departed in 2003. For her trouble, Gorelick collected a staggering $26.4 million in total compensation, including bonuses. Federal investigators (PDF) would later say that "Fannie Mae's management directed employees to manipulate accounting and earnings to trigger maximum bonuses for senior executives from 1998 to 2003." The New York Times would call the manipulations an "$11 billion accounting scandal." Gorelick, it should be noted, has never been charged with any wrongdoin..."

July 23, 1997, report in the American Banker, Robert Zoellick, head of the World Bank, has served President Reagan the Bushes [trade representative, deputy secretary of state, deputy secretary of the treasury, deputy chief of staff... "has used his close ties to Republicans in Congress, such as Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, R-Ga.,to defend Fannie Mae from new taxes."

Furthermore as we collect all the straw carries that loaded up the camel's back"

"Fannie Mae's 51-member lobbying stable" includes "former Reps. Tom Downey, D-N.Y., and Ray McGrath, R-N.Y.; Steve Elmendorf, a Democratic political strategist and former congressional aide; and Donald Fierce, a longtime GOP operative. Freddie Mac's list of 91 lobbyists includes former Reps. Vin Weber, R-Minn., and Susan Molinari, R-N.Y." The AP notes the Fannie Mae ties enjoyed by McCain campaign manager Rick Davis and Arthur B. Culvahouse Jr., who helped in McCain's veep search. According to Politico, McCain economic adviser Aquiles Suarez worked as Fannie Mae's director of government and industry relations, and McCain finance co-chairman Frederic V. Malek spent time on the Freddie Mac board..." more

Newt was a light weight in comparison and at 300k? [fingers fly in so many ways, they could become an energy source]

This is Frank working his "water boys". It is, what it is..politics as usual.

Good story to discuss..thanks.

Groans at how long we still have to put up with the campaigning 2012.

26 posted on 10/31/2011 8:49:19 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
If you read the article you will see that while they did carefully fail to mention Dem perps by name as they did Republicans, they clearly said that both Greenspan and President Bush tried to put the brakes on Fannie and Freddie.

This is one of the very RARE occasions when they're NOT yelling Bush's fault.

I hate to defend AP who is usually campaigning for Rats and against Reps, but THIS TIME they told the truth about Bush trying to stop the scam and named several Republicans who also tried to stop it, including some Republicans I didn't like (E. Dole, McCain, Hagel...) but I have to give them good credit for this.

28 posted on 10/31/2011 8:51:02 AM PDT by Sal (We want to run against Obama because he's even weaker and stupider than Carter.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

correction: carries =carriers


29 posted on 10/31/2011 8:51:33 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

But it doesn’t excuse Newt! We make all kind of exceptions for our guys but It’s still wrong


30 posted on 10/31/2011 9:19:37 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
This story making Newt not worthy to be a POTUS? No. It's not getting that much press over Cain harassing some unknown women who someone found in the woodwork. He may have said you "look sexy tonight, is your husband close by" [joke] and that can be deemed inappropriate. Herman Cain got the ball rolling on talking about the real issues and bringing the long avoided flat tax or related changes to light. Paul could never draw the mass overall response that Cain has--and we suddenly got down to the issues rather than taking swats at each other guided by the MSM for hopes of some scandal rather than what's good for the country in the economic collapse we found ourselves in [overnight?..ah huh]. Were you better off under Clinton, Bush or Obama? Newt is not my candidate at the time, but this 'slogan of the 300k'] does not bother me in my choice--he was a minor player under the influence of far more respected credentials guiding the presidents and their committees as I mentioned. His relationship with his former wife[illness/affair] was more troubling to me. I get stuck on that even though his children love him. I should get over that part of the bio for that reason. The Left is still trying to cover up Frank who I agree should be in jail!!! Frank is in fighting-retaliation mode so this story is the best he can do. This is the best he can do. But be sure the media has the power to decide. You have to know that the cable channels etc are limited in much of the more rural parts of the US..sure there is satellite but many can not afford to pay for extra packages like FOX so get the same old tired networks, Brian Williams with his puppy dog eyes etc.

Many Americans still spend little time on the net "researching" as You do.. their site of choice is FACEBOOK or TWITTER and we know what floats for rumors around there. They ears only perk when you have a "sexy" scandal in the works.

31 posted on 10/31/2011 10:03:29 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Yep. Gotta wonder where Barney Frank and Chucky Dodd’s names are.


32 posted on 10/31/2011 10:09:33 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: marty60
He’s one of THEM.


33 posted on 10/31/2011 2:25:25 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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34 posted on 10/31/2011 2:32:54 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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35 posted on 10/31/2011 2:37:22 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Without Sarah Palin I don’t see both ethics & ability in one candidate. That is what made her so unique.

At least Newt’s got the ability and realistic plan for undoing zerO.


36 posted on 10/31/2011 9:16:33 PM PDT by GlockLady (Newter Obama! Newter the Progressive Movement!)
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To: GlockLady

So Newt has the ability but not the ethics? That’s goes back to the question about Newt: Do I trust him? That answer is hell no!


37 posted on 10/31/2011 9:23:09 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: detective

“But the people who actively caused the problem were ALL Democrats.”

Hardly. There was a bipartisan consensus for financial deregulation that took off during the Clinton years. There are plenty of Republican fingerprints on the bills that opened the door for the financial crisis, including Dubya’s “American Dream Downpayment Initiative”.


38 posted on 10/31/2011 11:03:28 PM PDT by Pelham (turn out the lights, the party's over)
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To: Sal

“both Greenspan and President Bush tried to put the brakes on Fannie and Freddie”

Greenie and Dubya were trying to reduce the leverage that F&F were using.

They weren’t trying to put the brakes on subprime lending.

And they weren’t concerned about size of the private market securitizers, the competitors of F&F, that were growing bigger and faster than the two GSEs.

They deserve a bit of credit but they didn’t see the housing bubble and both of them promoted policies that made it grow.


39 posted on 10/31/2011 11:10:49 PM PDT by Pelham (turn out the lights, the party's over)
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To: detective

“Conservatives and Republicans should have been more aggressive in opposing Fannie and Freddie.”

More aggressive? That’s an understatement. They were about as aggressive as Boehner was in cutting the budget.


40 posted on 11/01/2011 4:36:35 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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