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To: Tennessee Nana

Nothing wrong with a pro-christian message. A lot wrong with anti- (Mormon, Catholic, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Adventist, or whatever).

Article VI, paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.


16 posted on 10/17/2011 1:56:04 PM PDT by JustAnotherOne (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: JustAnotherOne; Tennessee Nana
but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

I've been considering candidates religious affiliation all my voting life. Please don't report me to the authorities, no telling how long a prison sentence I'd get.

Nana, do they have a federal prison in Tennessee? Perhaps you could bring me a pie with a hack saw blade in it (I prefers cobbler).

21 posted on 10/17/2011 2:13:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: JustAnotherOne

Yes, but voters have every right to question a candidate’s religion or lack of, and decide to vote for or against based on that.

I will never vote for a mormon anymore than I would vote for a muslim or satanist.


25 posted on 10/17/2011 2:14:56 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,perverts,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: JustAnotherOne; Tennessee Nana
Article VI, paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

How ignorant can you get JustAnotherOne?

Do you realize that what you cited applies to the candidate & the government, not to the voter?

Here, read & weap over your lack of constitutional & socio-political discernment:

Point 1- RELIGION: Religion IS NOT a qualification or disqualification for public office; but it's certainly one quality of voter discernment among many others...namely, voting record, present position statements & rampant inconsistency of past position statements, social issues' stances, character, viability, scandal-free past, etc. Article VI, section 3 of the Constitution is aimed at the candidate (must be of a certain age and must have resided in our country for a certain number of years) and the government so that religion does not become a disqualification to keep somebody otherwise eligible for running for public office. Article VI, section 3, is not aimed at the voter. Otherwise, voters would have to 100% disregard character, beliefs, other-dimensionly commitments, and spiritual discernment in weighing candidates.

POINT 2 - ELIGIBILITY: Newsflash!! Every person on the ballot, & even most write-in candidates, have proper "qualifications" to not be excluded from office consideration (based upon religious grounds). Of course, millions of us have the "qualifications" to be considered a potential POTUS & shouldn't be excluded outright from a ballot because of the religion we hold! Nobody has a "Religious Ineligibility" tattoo on their forehead!

POINT 3- BOTTOM LINE: You confuse "qualifications" (language within the Constitution) with "qualities." (language that’s NOT in the Constitution). I focus on what voters base their votes on in the "real world": Qualities

Otherwise, Article VI says absolutely nothing...nada...zero...about how voters must weigh--or not weigh--the "qualities" of a candidate...So, nowhere does Article VI say that voters MUST 100% disregard character, beliefs, other-dimensionly commitments, and spiritual discernment in weighing candidates!

"Qualifications" have to do with what gets a man on a ballot. "Qualities" has to do with who gets elected.

POINT 4- YOU (perhaps inadvertently) SLAM 78% OF GOP, 62% OF AMERICANS, & 92% OF EVANGELICALS with your mis-assessment : A Freeper posted a Rasmussen poll 5 years ago (late 2006) [see Election 2008: 43% Would Never Vote for Mormon Candidate (Rasmussen Poll) ]. According to that excerpt: The Rasmussen Reports survey found that 35% say that a candidate's faith and religious beliefs are very important in their voting decision. Another 27% say faith and religious beliefs are somewhat important. Ninety-two percent (92%) of Evangelical Christian voters consider a candidate's faith and beliefs important. On the partisan front, 78% of Republicans say that a candidate's faith is an important consideration, a view shared by 55% of Democrats. However, there is also a significant divide on this topic within the Democratic Party. Among minority Democrats, 71% consider faith and religious beliefs an important consideration for voting. Just 44% of white Democrats agree.

So…what % of the following groups found that a candidate’s faith and religious beliefs are an important consideration for voting?
(1) Americans: 62%
(2) Evangelical Christians: 92%
(3) Republicans: 78%
(4) Democrats: 55% [still a majority]

28 posted on 10/17/2011 2:51:37 PM PDT by Colofornian (Anyone who can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone.)
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To: JustAnotherOne

Stop beating a dead horse. This about the government forming an official religion that must be sworn to.
Good grief.


30 posted on 10/17/2011 3:08:14 PM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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To: JustAnotherOne
but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Like other mitt supporters - this passage is constantly misinterpreted. The 'religious test' is a statutory issue - that is any gov't (city through national) CANNOT exclude people base upon their religion.

However, that does not apply to the voters JAO, the voters can use any criteria they desire to evaluate the suitablity of a canidate for office. In this case, romney is a temple mormon who has sworn allegance to the mormon church first and foremost as a requirement to his progression to godhood, he believes as a fact that the lds founder translated 'gold plates' by placing a smooth pebble into a hat and reading the 'translation' provided by said pebble. Says a lot about his mental thought processes, and such evaluation IS permitted.

31 posted on 10/17/2011 3:11:04 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: JustAnotherOne

Article VI, paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Thats about the Reps and Senators

Romnewy wants to be POTUS

Meanwhile where in this thread is a post that says Romney cannot run for POTUS because he is a Mormon ???

BTW Romney will uppold and “sustain” his Mormon leaders, his Mormon “church” and his Mormon doctrines before the US Constitution...

Hes “bound by” his “blood oaths” to the Mormon religion...


42 posted on 10/17/2011 4:30:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: JustAnotherOne
...but no religious test shall ever be required... by GOV'T, but VOTERS can TEST all they want!
61 posted on 10/17/2011 8:18:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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