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Alleged Iran plot "dangerous escalation": Clinton (Wag The Dog II)
Reuters ^ | 12 Oct 11 | None

Posted on 10/13/2011 3:41:19 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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To: Mad Dawgg

Precisely.

This story had merit back in May and June...when it actually broke. They stashed it away in their rainy-day fund.


61 posted on 10/15/2011 8:19:32 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: nuconvert

Uh, “first day?”

This story had merit back in May and June.
It is now October.

Obammie and his Commies obviously stashed this story in their rainy-day fund. Now that the hurricanes Solyndra and Fast-and-Furious, they’re dipping into that fund.


62 posted on 10/15/2011 8:21:18 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Travis McGee

Exactly as I was thinking.

They are becoming so desperate, their attempts appear clumsy at best.


63 posted on 10/15/2011 8:22:32 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Contact was first made with the undercover DEA agent back at the end of May/beginning of June. After that the investigation began to see who & what was involved. That takes time. This isn’t tv where things are solved in an hour.
Read more on the timeline now available and how things went down.


64 posted on 10/15/2011 8:50:49 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Exactly. This story was briefed to the pres months ago. Nothing was “breaking” on it except a need to preempt the subpoenas.


65 posted on 10/15/2011 10:17:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: nuconvert

It’s wag the dog. If you want to believe that Obama and Hillary really have America’s national defense on their agenda, you go ahead and believe that.

But I’ve been following lying liberals for way too long to believe the timing is the result of natural discovery process.


66 posted on 10/15/2011 3:17:57 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

This wasn’t a “natural discovery process”. This involved playing along, baiting and setting them up over the summer months.


67 posted on 10/15/2011 3:39:04 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Timeline: Qods Force Terrorist plot in the U.S.

Early Spring 2011: Abdul Reza Shahlai (Iranian Official 1 in the DOJ complaint) approaches his cousin, Manssor Arbabsiar, a naturalized U.S. citizen with dual Iranian citizenship living in Corpus Christi, Texas, to carry out a kidnapping plot against Saudi Ambassador to the U.S. Adel al Jubeir. Shahlai is a deputy in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps Qods Force (IRGC-QF), previously designated by U.S. Treasury Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) for his involvement in a January 20, 2007 attack against U.S. soldiers stationed in Karbala, Iraq. Arbabsiar tells Shahlai that he has contacts in the United States and in Mexico, some of whom he believes to be narcotics traffickers.

May 24: Arbabsiar travels between Texas and Mexico to meet with an FBI confidential informant (CS-1 in the DOJ complaint) posing as a member of the Zetas Mexican drug cartel. Arbabsiar inquires whether CS-1 has any knowledge of explosives and explains to CS-1 that he is interested in assaulting the Saudi embassy in Washington, D.C. CS-1 claims he is proficient with C-4 plastic explosives.

May 30-June 23: Arbabsiar travels internationally, departing from Houston, Texas. Destination(s) for Arbabsiar’s international travel are not included in the complaint’s timeline; however, the complaint specifies that Arbabsiar traveled to Iran after his initial May 24 meeting with CS-1 in Mexico. While in Iran, Arbabsiar meets with Gholam Shakuri, an IRGC-QF officer and deputy to Shahlai, “routinely on a one-one-one basis” and also with Hamed Abdollahi (Iranian Official 2 in the DOJ complaint), a senior IRGC-QF officer. During Arbabsiar’s meetings in Tehran, the following is discussed:

1. Arbabsiar has located a cartel member in Mexico to carry out the assassination plot.

2. The plot could involve “numerous” civilian casualties.

3. The assassination plot is given code-name “Chevrolet.”

4. A $100,000 down-payment for CS-1 is approved.

5. Arbabsiar is told that IRGC-QF Commander Qassem Soleimani (Iranian Official 3 in the DOJ complaint) is aware of the plot, and Arbabsiar can meet him in the future.

June 23: Arbabsiar lands via airplane in Mexico after travelling internationally.

Late June-Early July: Arbabsiar meets with CS-1 and explains that, during his time abroad, he has held a series of meetings with his associates in Iran. Arbabsiar tells CS-1 his associates in Iran have described operations for CS-1 and CS-1’s associates during their meeting, including the assassination of the Saudi Ambassador.

July 14: CS-1 and Arbabsiar discuss the following while meeting in Mexico:

1. CS-1 needs four men for the assassination plot, and payment of $1.5 million. The Saudi ambassador is to be the main target before any other attacks are to be executed.

2. $100,000 is sent to the house of an associate of Arbabsiar. The money is to be a down-payment for the assassination plot against the ambassador; however, Arbabsiar explains to CS-1 his desire to transfer the money in installments rather than in a single payment. The money is to be transferred to an account of CS-1’s choosing.

3. CS-1 inquires about Arbabsiar’s cousin, Abdul Reza Shahlai. Arbabsiar describes his cousin as a “big general in the army” who works “in other countries for the Iranian government.”

4. CS-1 confirms with Arbabsiar that the assassination will move forward.

July 17: CS-1 and Arbabsiar meet again in Mexico and discuss the following:

1. CS-1 confirms with Arbabsiar that the Saudi ambassador is the target by showing him a photograph of the ambassador.

2. Arbabsiar instructs CS-1 to avoid killing bystanders when executing the assassination plot, but to continue the operation even if civilian casualties are likely to occur. When CS-1 observed that there could be more than one hundred civilian casualties and that U.S. senators may dine where the attack is likely to occur, Arbabsiar responded “no big deal” and “no problem.”

3. Arbabsiar informs CS-1 that his associate is not paying from his pocket, and “has the government behind him.”

4. Shakuri meets with Arbabsiar in an unspecified location to provide him with additional funds.

July 20: Following the July 17 meeting, Arbabsiar flies out of Mexico to Iran for a meeting with Shahlai.

August 1: $49,960 is wired from a foreign bank account into the bank account provided by CS-1 (“UC Bank Account” in the DOJ complaint), a down-payment for the assassination plot.

August 9: The second and final half of the $100,000 down-payment for the assassination is wired to UC Bank Account from a foreign entity.

August 11: CS-1 confirms with Arbabsiar via telephone that the entire $100,000 was received.

September 2: Arbabsiar confirms with CS-1 via telephone that further payment will be made to the informant for additional terrorist attacks following the assassination of the ambassador.

September 12: In a phone call between Arbabsiar and CS-1, Arbabsiar confirms that the assassination plot is to be a test run, which if successful, will lead to future assignments for CS-1.

Late September: While back in Tehran, Arbabsiar meets with Shakuri, who warns Arbabsiar that he will be responsible for himself if he travelled to Mexico. Shakuri instructs Arbabsiar to call him after he arrived in Mexico so Shakuri could confirm Arbabsiar’s safety.

September 20: Arbabsiar agrees to fly to Mexico and act as collateral while the assassination operation is underway.

September 28: Mexican authorities deny Arbabsiar entry to the country, and he is returned to JFK Airport in New York City, his flight’s origin. Federal authorities arrest Arbabsiar at JFK. Among his confiscated items are $3,900 in U.S. currency, “a sum of Iranian currency,” U.S. and Iranian passports, and a travelling itinerary for an October 2011 flight departing Mexico with a final destination of Iran.

October 5: Following his arrest, Arbabsiar, under the supervision of federal agents, calls Shakuri to confirm that the assassination plot is moving forward. Arbabsiar tells Shakuri that CS-1 wants more money for the plot, which Shakuri rejects. Shakuri instructs Arbabsiar to execute the plot as quickly as possible.

October 7: Arbabsiar places another phone call to Shakuri, explaining that CS-1 wants more money, in addition to the $100,000 that has already been paid, before carrying out the assassination. Shakuri responds that he will seek approval from his superiors. Shakuri reminds Arbabsiar of his agreement to travel to Mexico to serve as a guarantee for full payment for the assassination.

October 11: U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and FBI Director Robert Mueller announce the arrest of Arbabsiar and reveal details of the plot. U.S. Treasury OFAC designates Hamed Abdollahi and Gholam Shakuri and updates the designations of Shahlai and Soleimani, who had been previously subject to OFAC sanctions.


68 posted on 10/15/2011 3:55:04 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Your timeline proves that there was newsworthy information going back a couple of months ago.

If Obammie and his Commies needed to dodge an issue then, they would have released the information then.

Really don’t know what you are trying to prove and why you are defending these scumbags, but my opinion remains unchanged.


69 posted on 10/15/2011 9:06:24 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“Your timeline proves that there was newsworthy information going back a couple of months ago.
If Obammie and his Commies needed to dodge an issue then, they would have released the information then.”

Yes, they could have blown the entire undercover operation and released the information sooner. But in order to not blow months of investigative work & get the evidence they wanted, the soonest they could have arrested him (according to the timeline) was mid Sept.

I’m not “defending” anyone. I’m trying to present the facts. People are responding emotionally not rationally because they haven’t read what happened.
(btw- that timeline came from American Enterprise Inst., not a left-wing rag.)


70 posted on 10/16/2011 4:42:40 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I commend you for trying to present the facts and prevent an ‘emotional’ response.

The point I’ve been trying to make is that in addition to the facts, there is a political angle to this story.

Reverse the players and the parties.

Suppose that this had happened under Bush’s watch.

What do you think the response from the public and especially the media would have been?

Here’s the other point.

Why did this administration even pretend to care about what the Iranians are alleged to have been planning? This is a guy who literally could not care less what happens to America or Americans.

Of all the ‘plots’ and actual attacks against American interest, why pursue this one?

I’ll say it again. Politics.

That is all the Communist-in-Chief cares about. He’ll offend whatever allies he needs to and cozy up to and apologize to whatever enemies he needs to in order to put himself in the best political position possible.

As I said in another post, this is nothing compared to Iran’s development of nuclear weapons. If this administration were truly concerned about an Iranian threat, they should have encouraged Israel to take out Iran’s nuclear facilities.

One lame nuke put into orbit using the missile-guidance technology that Slick Willy sold to the ChiComs and detonated over the US will result in an EMP that will wreak havoc in the US.

Obammie the Commie’s mock concern is blatantly misplaced.

Thanks for putting the timeline together.


71 posted on 10/16/2011 6:58:54 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“The point I’ve been trying to make is that in addition to the facts, there is a political angle to this story.”
“Politics.That is all the Communist-in-Chief cares about.”

Of course.
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Obama won’t do what’s necessary to end all of this.
Sanctions are never going to solve the Iranian nuke problem or the terrorist threat that the IRI is and has been.
The only thing that will, is bringing down the IRI regime...and no administration since the hostage crisis (Pres. Reagan included, I’m sorry to say) has been willing to do that. (tho I give some points to Pres. Bush for starting in that direction. Had Cheney been Pres, I believe it would have happened.)


72 posted on 10/16/2011 7:33:04 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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