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Cain leads Romney by eight nationally, Perry in 4th (Newt now in 3rd place!)
Public Policy Polling ^ | 10/12/11 | PPP

Posted on 10/12/2011 8:47:50 PM PDT by jageorge72

"Gingrich is up a nominal five points, and Romney four, while Paul is down six, and Bachmann four."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; gingrich; newt
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To: jageorge72

I have to admit I’m giving Newt another look. Cain is absolutely out. 9-9-9 is toxic. A lot not to like about Newt, but it’s a rough field. Perry is toast. He flamed out faster than old Fred Thompson.


21 posted on 10/12/2011 9:16:55 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: faucetman

Yes, Newt is Conservative. He makes mistakes and must be watched. I think he has learned his lesson. In any case, he is the “best of the rest”. Cain is a nice guy, he is just too inexperienced in politics and foreign affairs. Yes, the presidency is a “POLITICAL” job. We now have a novice in foreign affairs in that job now. How is that working?

We can’t afford the time to “train” the next president.

This is an EIGHT year job, most likely. Cain is too old.


22 posted on 10/12/2011 9:18:34 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Huck

I agree. Perry is DONE. He will be the next one to drop out. His heart isn’t in it. He looked pathetic last night.

Romney MUST be stopped!


23 posted on 10/12/2011 9:21:20 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: jageorge72

Disagree about 999 Plan, I think this will be viewed favorably by many Americans. Noot is the one who’s going nowhere in the long run.


24 posted on 10/12/2011 9:21:57 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: faucetman

How old is Herman Cain? His age never crossed my mind as an issue. I’d guess he was younger than Newt, but maybe I’m wrong. Paul is the one on stage that seems too old.


25 posted on 10/12/2011 9:22:27 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: faucetman

The tea party has apparantly hitched on to a loser—Mr. 9-9-9. If we’re gonna stop Romney, I’m running out of ideas. Newt? Santorum? I mean, what the hell?


26 posted on 10/12/2011 9:23:55 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: jageorge72
Romney is the fait accompli in all the pundits' books, but I don't see anyone looking at this dynamically. Cain looks to be the one who will get the momentum, and I'm no Cain fan at all (I'm no fan of anyone running, actually).

Here is my calculus. We have these people running: Romney, Cain, Paul, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, and Huntsman. The last four just aren't going to make it all the way. They'll run out of money and voters. The votes for Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum will break toward Cain or Gingrich. Huntsman's 12 voters will all go to Romney. As the field consolidates, Romney gains virtually nothing while Cain and Gingrich will pick up votes. Gingrich just has too much baggage, I think, to win. He is a brilliant man, but he has made a lot of enemies.

On the flip side, Cain had better increase his money and campaign support if he is to hold in there. Romney really knows how to hold together a truly professional campaign, and he has major backing, so just getting consolidated votes might not be enough.

27 posted on 10/12/2011 9:24:37 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: bigbob

9 9 9 + 5 years = 20 20 20


28 posted on 10/12/2011 9:25:01 PM PDT by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: jageorge72

Cain is 66 years old.


29 posted on 10/12/2011 9:26:09 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: faucetman
This is an EIGHT year job, most likely. Cain is too old.

We can always put a younger man in the pipeline as the VP candidate to keep the flow going and prevent the country from going down the drain into the bidet.

30 posted on 10/12/2011 9:26:26 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: jageorge72
"his 999 plan.... the cornerstone of his campaign...... is going nowhere"

Where exactly is the top?

yitbos

31 posted on 10/12/2011 9:30:18 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Revolting cat!
We can always put a younger man in the pipeline as the VP candidate
32 posted on 10/12/2011 9:30:56 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

Purr-fekt!


33 posted on 10/12/2011 9:32:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Huck
The tea party has apparantly hitched on to a loser—Mr. 9-9-9. If we’re gonna stop Romney, I’m running out of ideas. Newt? Santorum? I mean, what the hell?

I hear you! 9-9-9 is a terrible idea, and the other candidates are right to say it'll be 20-20-20. It enshrines a new national sales tax, and at some point the income tax will rise to near present levels. Cain says part of the plan says that it can't be raised without a 2/3 vote. Sorry, Mr. Cain, but the Constitution says a simple majority is enough, and an amendment of this sort just isn't going to pass. 9-9-9 is feared by conservatives, libertarians, liberals, and retirees. It's DOA and politically ridiculous.

Santorum?? He's fine, but he doesn't have a chance. He pushed the values side while everyone is focused on economics. Losing his Senate seat also killed his chances.

Gingrich is probably the best choice of the three, and Newt's dalliances with the Left sicken most of us. To his credit, he is a very brilliant man who, when sane, really understands the economic problems we face. When he's not sane, he starts talking empowerment zones and big government solutions.

Fortunately I'm in a state where the winner is picked by the time I can vote, so I don't have to pick from a list where none of the candidates is satisfactory.

34 posted on 10/12/2011 9:40:14 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: jageorge72

Newt cannot win. He has national poll numbers like Palin. Perry seems to be fading. The new poll showing Obama trouncing him will hurt his fund raising.

The race now looks like a battle between Romney and Cain. I am not sure if Cain has the staying power. Romney has staying power, money, and organization to make it through 6 months of primaries. Cain’s best chances are early wins to gain momentum and funds.

All of the candidates are flawed. It is disappointing that a clear favorite has not emerged. I will support the primary winner. If Cain is still viable, I will support him in the Colorado primary. If I were betting, I would put money on Romney.


35 posted on 10/12/2011 9:43:15 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Huck

I like Cain, and even sport his bumper sticker on my car, but he is betting every chip he has on 9-9-9, and it doesn’t seem to be gaining in popularity, and that may be a problem for him in the long run.


36 posted on 10/12/2011 9:43:15 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: freedomfiter2

I agree that Newt has a ton of baggage. But damn, watching him in these debates he looks Presidential.

He’s the only person up there who seems 100 percent comfortable with himself and the task at hand.

I’m less worried about his Pelosi couch snuggle than I am about his reprehensible personal life and negatives with the average voter coming out of the 1990’s.

I don’t have any worries though about him selling out if he was elected. I think he’d implement a ton of smart conservative policies.


37 posted on 10/12/2011 9:44:59 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: jageorge72
It will boil down to Newt vs. Mittens. I think Newt will get key endorsements from Rick Perry and Sarah Palin as well.

I agree! I have always been a Newt supporter because he is by far the smartest and most qualified of them all. However, I wasn't sure he would stick it out until the end. So, I wanted Palin first and Perry/Cain second. Now it looks like Newt is going to be in for the long haul and I am shifting my support to him! He is by far the best, but I repeat myself.

38 posted on 10/12/2011 9:44:59 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: NavyCanDo
that may be a problem for him in the long run.

Hopefully sooner rather than later. There sits Romney, while the Tea Party flirts with the guy who wants to tax everything under the sun. Amazing.

39 posted on 10/12/2011 9:46:32 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: jageorge72
While Cain is the most honest and most sincere, Newt is the most capable to be POTUS. Sleazy, but capable. I'm going Cain with Newt on deck... Palin? Who the heck is Palin?
40 posted on 10/12/2011 9:49:25 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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