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Posted on 10/03/2011 7:34:15 AM PDT by Graewoulf
[ Having a Constitutional Convention now would be like nine sheep living among a pack of wolves deciding to have a barbecue, and hoping nothing bad happens to them. ]
Indeed the nation of Makers has become a nation of Takers and this won’t change unless there is a Reset, and that reset will either be difficult but peaceful, or more difficult and not peaceful.
“There will be at least 4 votes against the mandate. Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas. It’s really up to Kennedy.”
That’s assuming that nothing “happens” to any of the 4 stalwarts - giving 0 the opportunity to appoint another justice - or.....Thomas is forced to recuse himself and Kagan
refuses to do so and Obamacare passes 5-3 or tied at 4-4.
It is suspicious that the fast track to SCOTUS was not blocked by DOJ.
” - - - It is suspicious that the fast track to SCOTUS was not blocked by DOJ. - - - “
Hmmm——— . Maybe. Seems that just last week at the CBC that Chairman You Lie Obama made some comment about, oh yes, now I remember: “GET YOUR MARCHIN’ SHOES ON ! WE HAVE WORK TO DO ! “
Whatever could that “work” be?
Naturally, Holdem-and-then-let-em-go, couldn’t be present as he was busy “ workin’ “ on his brief to THE NINE SUPREMES.
BTW, come to think of it, our esteemed Attorney General COULD have been calling, or texting, the latest Court appointees, about “work,” of course.
I love a good vanity in the morning!
The sad fact that we are even discussing them is a manifestation of the even sadder fact that, until recently, Americans have grown complacently inattentive to the actions of and abuses by government at all levels. The phrase “Let George do it” springs to mind. More folks know the names of the characters on “Lost” and “Dancing With The Stars” than know who allegedly “represents” them in the House.
Having said that, I must respectfully disagree with calls for a Constitutional Convention. I do so for the same reasons I joined with others to repel the push for a ConCon during the Carter maladministration.
Please recall that the FIRST ConCon was convened to REVISE the Articles of Confederation and, while it produced a radically different – and arguably superior – national charter, the problem to which I referred at the top would almost certainly lead to a loss of even more of the freedoms too many of us now take for granted.
A second ConCon would be populated by current STATE political elites who have been selected BY their fellow STATE political elites. Think Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Fortney “Pete” Stark, Maxine Waters or their philosophical clones etc. and be afraid. Be VERY AFRAID!
Unfortunately for us and our liberties, General Washington, Messers. Madison, Franklin, Adams, Sherman and the others will not be there this time. Once in session, THERE WOULD BE NO PRACTICAL WAY TO CONTROL THE NEW CAST OF CHARACTERS.
But, say you, the PEOPLE would have to ratify any such actions. Please recall that, today, these would be the same people who gave us Barrack Obama and hundreds of “progressives” on Capitol Hill in 2008.
Yes, so far 2010 appears to have been a SLIGHT course change and, no, I’m not giving up on the people. In our system, they should, within Constitutional constraints, have the last word.
Mr. Jefferson’s advice in that area comes to mind:
“I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion.”
Those of us who wish to save this nation and return it to a condition the Founders would again recognize must continue to “…inform their discretion.”
Check out GOOOH as a better way to get this country back on the rails (and run most of these incumbent bums out of town on one). WWW.GOOOH.COM.
No Con-Con while Obama is in Office.
The LAST thing we need is for this bunch to have a seat at the table.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Justice Kennedy has recently been visited by some folks from Chicago who were a little concerned about his family’s health, if you get my drift ...
” - - - I love a good vanity in the morning! - - - “
Thanks! I’m on my third cup of coffee myself!
I appreciate your cheerful words, as I know that the cheap, verbal abuse is comin’. (Gotta stay PC and drop my “g”, accordin’ to Obamaspeak).
” - - - visited by some folks from Chicago - - - “
It worked with The Ford Motor Company. Gangsta’ Politics, Chicago-Style!
” - - - visited by some folks from Chicago - - - “
It worked with The Ford Motor Company. Gangsta’ Politics, Chicago-Style!
The crisis has been a long time coming, but now it is here.
Only the States can solve it peacefully.
And a convention, fraught with danger as it is, is the only way.
Except war.
That’s assuming that nothing “happens” to any of the 4 stalwarts - giving 0 the opportunity to appoint another justice - or.....Thomas is forced to recuse himself and Kagan
refuses to do so and Obamacare passes 5-3 or tied at 4-4.
It is suspicious that the fast track to SCOTUS was not blocked by DOJ.
___________________________
1) Thomas will not recuse himself. No one can force him to recuse himself.
2) DOJ and Obama want this issue decided quickly. If they win, they win. If they lose, the mandate goes away as a political issue.
” - - - - we can’t even get Republicans to back a conservative for president. - - - “
You are making my point as to why we need to use the REALLY big broom called “The Constitutional Convention.”
How do you get to a unanimous decision as even a possibility? When was the last time they were unanimous on anything?
You are making my point as to why we need to use the REALLY big broom called “The Constitutional Convention.”
Your missing my point. We don't have enough "good guys". If there is a convention and the "good guys" are outnumbered, it would be a disaster for our Country.
” - - - it would be a disaster for our Country. - - - “
America is in a financial death spiral caused by two Presidents who destroyed 4,000 BILLION dollars each. By any reasonable estimate, this is a US Federal Government-caused disaster.
So, my FR friend, are you saying: “Better the disaster we know than the disaster we don’t know?” Seems like all the frogs in that pot of very warm water are probably thinking that very same thought.
BTW, Article V was designed by our founders to allow citizens to “Escape From Captive Government.” Each State shall hold its own Constitutional Convention.
It will take many years to reach the required majority, 32 States. During that time, those who desire the European Style Feudal System, today called “Socialism”, will be put on notice that their parasitic days are numbered.
We came very close in the ‘6os. Pn the issue of representation in the state legislatures. Then of course, attention was diverted because of the Vietnamese War and the Civilv Rights movement.
This is Article V of the US Constitution, copied from the Cornell University Law School website.
” The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.”
As you can see, a unanimous decision is not required. Also notice that the second method of altering the Constitution bypasses the US Congress, and vests power with the State Legislatures.
Now that Traitor John Roberts has turned us over to the slavery of infinite Federal Taxation, it is time to petition the Esteemed Sobber-of-the-House Boehner to begin writing the very long list of offenses that are to be included in the Articles of Impeachment of Dictator Obama.
Due to Sobber Boehner’s extreme work load of doing nothing, let us FReepers send him our lists of Impeachable Offenses.
List all the charges to be included in The Articles of Impeachment, and send them to Sobber Boehner.
IF Sobber B. cannot get Articles of Impeachment begun by the end of the Republican National Convention, then it is time to start the legal procedures for Article V Constitutional Convention.
Unless, of course, the first ballot at Tampa is an ABSTAIN vote, and thus DUMPS Milktoast Mitt Romney.
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