I have said this before in another couple of threads, and the fence crowd ignored it.
So, you want a fence, eh? We have one here. It is called 18 to 100 miles of sea water between the UK and Europe. A slightly more effective barrier than a poxy 30 foot fence, right? We still get between 600k and 1 million illegals coming in per year.
Italy has 50 to 200 miles of sea as their fence - they get the same sort of infulx - every year.
Don’t talk crap about fences. Boots on the ground!
Worked pretty damned well for China and (unfortunately) East Germany. Or are you denying historical fact? The San Diego fence GREATLY reduced crossings there as well. The Israeli fence reduced terrorism significantly.
The green zone in Iraq? Go back to the WW2 era and look at the barbed wire and ‘fencing’ on battlefields. Can you think of a reason it was there in use? There are a million legit reasons to build a fence and NONE to not do it.
Fences have worked since their creation and just because Rick Perry is AGAINST THEM that has no bearing on their historic effectiveness.
Two words: “Force multiplier”
Foolproof? No. So build it and back it up with patrols, cameras, GP Sonar, Predators etc. But a secure fence is absolutely a cornerstone of securing our border.
Bingo. Fence is probably third on the list of effective border control. No against it, but eliminating the incentives that attract the citizens of other countries to come here illegaly, and diplomatically insisting that other countries discourage their citizens and otms from crossing borders illegally (our borders are the others countries’ borders too) are even more important than a fence.
Water isn’t a fence, it’s a highway. Think Dunkirk.