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FLASHBACK: Illegal Entitlement Is Not An Option
HITM Archives ^ | 4/19/2006 | Herman Cain

Posted on 09/28/2011 10:33:08 AM PDT by justsaynomore

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Herman gets it.

Another excellent one on illegal immigration here: http://economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-040406.asp

1 posted on 09/28/2011 10:33:14 AM PDT by justsaynomore
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To: justsaynomore

he even knows what Aztlan is


2 posted on 09/28/2011 10:36:30 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: justsaynomore

Herman Cain seems to be the only presidential candidate who gets it right on every issue every time.


3 posted on 09/28/2011 10:40:26 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Missouri gal

You are correct. Cain is the guy!


4 posted on 09/28/2011 10:42:15 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: ari-freedom

Yeah the ignorant Azatlanistas don’t even know it’s a MYTH derived from the writing of a White guy.

Ignorant fools.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 10:42:33 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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Notice how the number “12 Million” has been the commonly used figure for illegal immigrants even five years ago.

If there were an accurate figure today, I’d bet it’s triple that.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 10:43:39 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: justsaynomore

I am really starting to like Cain. If Sarah doesn’t run....I will vote/support /work for Herman.


7 posted on 09/28/2011 10:46:22 AM PDT by afnamvet (I stand with Israel.)
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To: justsaynomore

I have to tell you, this Herman Cain guy is really starting to grow on me. I think Palin is out. Cain just might be my guy.


8 posted on 09/28/2011 10:47:00 AM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: justsaynomore

The Cain train is gathering steam and chugging right along.


9 posted on 09/28/2011 10:56:20 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: Rational Thought

I think they were using that 12 mil number when I found FR in 2001. Without actually counting all the illegals I think it can safely be said that the numbers of them have only increased.

Heck, for all we know 12 mil was bogus in 2001.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: justsaynomore
If Sarah Palin doesn't run, I will be facing a major decision: do I want to be a “Honky for Herman” or a “Cracker for Cain?”
11 posted on 09/28/2011 11:19:56 AM PDT by bwc2221
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Notice how the number “12 Million” has been the commonly used figure for illegal immigrants even five years ago.

You are correct, except that the most commonly used figure is 11 million. And it first showed up around 2002. "Studies" like the Pew Hispanic Trust and the Center for Immigration Studies insist that they have done a thorough analysis and these numbers are accurate. Ironically, they have said that for years now, and the number always comes up 11 million. Thus you would have to presume that since 2003 no new illegal aliens have come into the USA, even though immigration officials arrest about 300000 a year at the border and admit that 3-4 times that get through undetected. That's 8 million more since 2003.

Truth is, they want to keep that number at 11 million. No one knows how many illegal aliens are in the US. 11 million is small enough to disguise the real impact and political retribution that would occur if the numbers came out to the more likely 20-30 million figure, but is large and important enough to make the problem susceptible to easy political maneuvers, like amnesty and work permits, or the current Obama plan of just not enforcing the laws (an impeachable offense, by the way).

The American people have consistently polled at 65-80% in their objection to open borders and amnesty for law breakers. Of course, the guaranteed pool of 11 million (really 20-30 million) voters for the entitlement welfare state is irresistible for the Democrats, and the cheap labor is irresistible for the Chamber of Commerce establishment Republicans, even though it is a suicide pact for the Republican Party.

The Tea Party phenomenon did not start with the Santelli rants on CNN in 2009. He only gave it a label.

It started in 2007, when the American people melted the switchboards on Capitol Hill as the McCain/Kennedy (with Bush and Rove) amnesty bill was forced down our throats. "See you at the signing" gloated Bush while Lindsey Graham was calling the majority of Americans "bigots". We fought back and defeated them.

And we saw what we could do to stop the establishment, Democrat and Republican alike, that we were mad as hell and not going to take it any more. That's what started the Tea Party - illegal immigration.

Regardless of their other good points, if the Republicans pick another amnesty-loving Republican like Perry or Christie, America will be speaking Spanish only in a generation. Entitlement generation? Wait till we look like Hugo Chavez' Venezuela.

12 posted on 09/28/2011 11:26:10 AM PDT by oldbill
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“Yeah the ignorant Azatlanistas don’t even know it’s a MYTH derived from the writing of a White guy.”

but my point is that this is something only a freeper would know. He’s not some business guy like Trump who woke up one day and said to himself “oh let’s check out this political stuff. It sounds like fun.”
And a WSJ conservative would never write this.


13 posted on 09/28/2011 11:29:19 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: justsaynomore

That was 2006, what is he saying about it and the Dream Act now?


14 posted on 09/28/2011 11:35:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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The same.


15 posted on 09/28/2011 11:51:42 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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only presidential candidate who gets it right on every issue every time

Does that mean you support gun control? Another poster has mentioned that Cain has some problems with the US Constitution 2nd Amenedment not being effective in every state.


16 posted on 09/28/2011 12:17:39 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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The only thing promised was abundant opportunity, given in exchange for assimilation and adherence to the rule of law.

In much of the world today, that would be a very enticing proposition.

17 posted on 09/28/2011 12:35:13 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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Oh I know what you meant. I just thought it was interesting he knew about the Myth. Not many people do and your right the msm would NEVER question the Lefties on their legitamacy.


18 posted on 09/28/2011 12:36:00 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: dusttoyou

Not true.

Herman Cain is 200% pro 2nd Amendment. What he said in the Blitzer interview (mentioned on that link you posted) was taken to mean that he believed states could overrule the 2nd amendment. He does not believe that and he explains here:

(at the 10:17 mark) I strongly support the 2nd amendment. I said that some things should be left up to the states, for example, if the states want to require background checks, let the states decide that. But I did not in ANY WAY mean states had a right to restrict access to owning firearms. So that was the misunderstanding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOUF1Hug0JI


19 posted on 09/28/2011 12:37:31 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: Missouri gal

To followup:

See post 4 on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2784895/posts


20 posted on 09/28/2011 12:38:45 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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