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FLASHBACK: Illegal Entitlement Is Not An Option
HITM Archives ^ | 4/19/2006 | Herman Cain

Posted on 09/28/2011 10:33:08 AM PDT by justsaynomore

The movement to grant amnesty and eventual U.S. citizenship to some 12 million illegal aliens has turned the issue from the sounds of silence to the sounds of entitlement.

The entitlement mentality did not begin in America, but it has flourished here in the last century. The American claim on entitlements to health care, retirement income and seemingly any "right" one can conceive was birthed from the womb of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, reared by Kennedy's New Frontier and came of age in Johnson's Great Society. U.S. citizens, fanned by the flames of those who encourage class warfare, are increasing their demands for government-redistributed income and programs that guarantee outcomes, not opportunities. Non-citizens are now voicing the sounds of entitlement to an easy road to citizenship.

The entitlement attitude that has been ingrained in millions of Americans has blinded them to the ineffectiveness and runaway costs of their favorite programs. The fiscal challenge in meeting the future demands of the Medicare and Medicaid programs is well documented, as is the coming bankruptcy of the Social Security system. Yet few elected officials dare to even utter those programs' names in public for fear of electoral retaliation.

Too many Americans also claim an entitlement to additional health care coverage from their employers. If they do not receive health care as a benefit, they believe the government should mandate it. The Maryland state legislature last year enacted a law requiring companies with over 10,000 employees to contribute 8 percent of total payroll to employees' health care. The legislature is now looking at ways to require all employers, including non-profit organizations, to pay a percentage of their employees' health care costs. Other states are considering the same plan.

Illegal aliens know they can receive free health care in hospital emergency rooms, paid for by U.S. taxpayers. A little publicized provision in the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act set aside $250 million in taxpayer dollars to reimburse hospitals for costs associated with treating illegal aliens. In a twist of logic only Congress could conceive, hospitals are barred from asking an emergency room patient if they are in the U.S. illegally. The long-run cost of this provision will surely skyrocket as hospitals continue to submit claims on coverage of people who may be illegal aliens.

Illegal aliens living and working in the U.S. have now co-opted the entitlement mentality present in too many Americans. Worse, their demands for the right to vote, guaranteed by our Constitution to citizens only, and access to social services are encouraged by elected officials trying to buy their future votes. At recent rallies Senators Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY), to name just two, argued that illegal aliens must be allowed to remain in the U.S. and put on the path toward full citizenship rights. In other words, let's skip the illegal part.

In addition to demands for voting rights, health care coverage and U.S. citizenship, many illegal aliens feel they are entitled to U.S. soil itself. Two groups that have helped organize the illegal alien rallies across the country, the Aztlan Movement and the Mexica Movement, believe it is American citizens who are in fact on their continent illegally. The Aztlan Movement seeks to create a separate nation comprised of northern Mexico and parts of the American Southwest, including California, Arizona and New Mexico. Members of the Mexica Movement, who waved signs at recent rallies that read "This Is Our Continent, Not Yours", seek to completely remove Americans from North America and surrender control of the U.S. to Mexico.

The entitlement and class warfare mentality fostered for a century by liberal presidents, congressional leaders, labor union leaders and heads of liberal organizations in fact obscures their real goal. They seek complete government control of our lives and our businesses, which ultimately can only be achieved with your vote. Since the inception of the income tax code in 1913, to the birth of the Social Security system in 1935 and the programs that have followed, the end goal is always bigger government. It is also important to remember that those who occupy the positions of power will try to achieve their goal by any means possible. If it takes convincing the public that our planet is somehow warming because we drive cars with the air conditioner running, then so be it. If it takes increasing entitlement spending programs to 100 percent of the federal budget, so be it. Whatever it takes.

The United States would never have become the United States had the litany of entitlement programs and the unnatural attitudes they foster been in place in the 1800s and early 1900s. This was the time when newly freed slaves struck out to work on achieving their own dreams, when American expansion and settlement headed west, and when millions of Europeans crossed the Atlantic for a hard but better life. The only thing promised was abundant opportunity, given in exchange for assimilation and adherence to the rule of law.

We must demand that our president and Congress secure our borders and our sovereignty as a nation of laws and citizen rights. To those who enter this country legally, welcome to America. Illegal entitlement is not an option.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cain; criminalaliens; democrats; entitlement; hermancain; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigration; votecain
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Herman gets it.

Another excellent one on illegal immigration here: http://economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-040406.asp

1 posted on 09/28/2011 10:33:14 AM PDT by justsaynomore
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To: justsaynomore

he even knows what Aztlan is


2 posted on 09/28/2011 10:36:30 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: justsaynomore

Herman Cain seems to be the only presidential candidate who gets it right on every issue every time.


3 posted on 09/28/2011 10:40:26 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Missouri gal

You are correct. Cain is the guy!


4 posted on 09/28/2011 10:42:15 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: ari-freedom

Yeah the ignorant Azatlanistas don’t even know it’s a MYTH derived from the writing of a White guy.

Ignorant fools.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 10:42:33 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: justsaynomore

Notice how the number “12 Million” has been the commonly used figure for illegal immigrants even five years ago.

If there were an accurate figure today, I’d bet it’s triple that.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 10:43:39 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: justsaynomore

I am really starting to like Cain. If Sarah doesn’t run....I will vote/support /work for Herman.


7 posted on 09/28/2011 10:46:22 AM PDT by afnamvet (I stand with Israel.)
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To: justsaynomore

I have to tell you, this Herman Cain guy is really starting to grow on me. I think Palin is out. Cain just might be my guy.


8 posted on 09/28/2011 10:47:00 AM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: justsaynomore

The Cain train is gathering steam and chugging right along.


9 posted on 09/28/2011 10:56:20 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: Rational Thought

I think they were using that 12 mil number when I found FR in 2001. Without actually counting all the illegals I think it can safely be said that the numbers of them have only increased.

Heck, for all we know 12 mil was bogus in 2001.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: justsaynomore
If Sarah Palin doesn't run, I will be facing a major decision: do I want to be a “Honky for Herman” or a “Cracker for Cain?”
11 posted on 09/28/2011 11:19:56 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Rational Thought
Notice how the number “12 Million” has been the commonly used figure for illegal immigrants even five years ago.

You are correct, except that the most commonly used figure is 11 million. And it first showed up around 2002. "Studies" like the Pew Hispanic Trust and the Center for Immigration Studies insist that they have done a thorough analysis and these numbers are accurate. Ironically, they have said that for years now, and the number always comes up 11 million. Thus you would have to presume that since 2003 no new illegal aliens have come into the USA, even though immigration officials arrest about 300000 a year at the border and admit that 3-4 times that get through undetected. That's 8 million more since 2003.

Truth is, they want to keep that number at 11 million. No one knows how many illegal aliens are in the US. 11 million is small enough to disguise the real impact and political retribution that would occur if the numbers came out to the more likely 20-30 million figure, but is large and important enough to make the problem susceptible to easy political maneuvers, like amnesty and work permits, or the current Obama plan of just not enforcing the laws (an impeachable offense, by the way).

The American people have consistently polled at 65-80% in their objection to open borders and amnesty for law breakers. Of course, the guaranteed pool of 11 million (really 20-30 million) voters for the entitlement welfare state is irresistible for the Democrats, and the cheap labor is irresistible for the Chamber of Commerce establishment Republicans, even though it is a suicide pact for the Republican Party.

The Tea Party phenomenon did not start with the Santelli rants on CNN in 2009. He only gave it a label.

It started in 2007, when the American people melted the switchboards on Capitol Hill as the McCain/Kennedy (with Bush and Rove) amnesty bill was forced down our throats. "See you at the signing" gloated Bush while Lindsey Graham was calling the majority of Americans "bigots". We fought back and defeated them.

And we saw what we could do to stop the establishment, Democrat and Republican alike, that we were mad as hell and not going to take it any more. That's what started the Tea Party - illegal immigration.

Regardless of their other good points, if the Republicans pick another amnesty-loving Republican like Perry or Christie, America will be speaking Spanish only in a generation. Entitlement generation? Wait till we look like Hugo Chavez' Venezuela.

12 posted on 09/28/2011 11:26:10 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Marty62

“Yeah the ignorant Azatlanistas don’t even know it’s a MYTH derived from the writing of a White guy.”

but my point is that this is something only a freeper would know. He’s not some business guy like Trump who woke up one day and said to himself “oh let’s check out this political stuff. It sounds like fun.”
And a WSJ conservative would never write this.


13 posted on 09/28/2011 11:29:19 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: justsaynomore

That was 2006, what is he saying about it and the Dream Act now?


14 posted on 09/28/2011 11:35:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs

The same.


15 posted on 09/28/2011 11:51:42 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: Missouri gal

only presidential candidate who gets it right on every issue every time

Does that mean you support gun control? Another poster has mentioned that Cain has some problems with the US Constitution 2nd Amenedment not being effective in every state.


16 posted on 09/28/2011 12:17:39 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: justsaynomore
The only thing promised was abundant opportunity, given in exchange for assimilation and adherence to the rule of law.

In much of the world today, that would be a very enticing proposition.

17 posted on 09/28/2011 12:35:13 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: ari-freedom

Oh I know what you meant. I just thought it was interesting he knew about the Myth. Not many people do and your right the msm would NEVER question the Lefties on their legitamacy.


18 posted on 09/28/2011 12:36:00 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: dusttoyou

Not true.

Herman Cain is 200% pro 2nd Amendment. What he said in the Blitzer interview (mentioned on that link you posted) was taken to mean that he believed states could overrule the 2nd amendment. He does not believe that and he explains here:

(at the 10:17 mark) I strongly support the 2nd amendment. I said that some things should be left up to the states, for example, if the states want to require background checks, let the states decide that. But I did not in ANY WAY mean states had a right to restrict access to owning firearms. So that was the misunderstanding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOUF1Hug0JI


19 posted on 09/28/2011 12:37:31 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: Missouri gal

To followup:

See post 4 on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2784895/posts


20 posted on 09/28/2011 12:38:45 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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