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Governor Rick Perry and Illegal Immigration: Jobs, Benefits, and Federal Policy
Big Government ^ | 9-27-2011 | Chuck DeVore

Posted on 09/27/2011 2:51:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Governor Rick Perry and Illegal Immigration: Jobs, Benefits, and Federal Policy

Chuck DeVore

September 27, 2011

Last week’s Republican Presidential debate confirmed one thing: Texas Governor Rick Perry’s main challenge in winning the Republican nomination will be his ability to explain his record on illegal immigration as governor vs. what he proposes to do about it as President.

Perry’s opponents have hit him for signing in 2001 the nation’s first law allowing illegal immigrants to get the in-state tuition break that other Texans who attended high school in-state receive. Four lawmakers out of 181 voted against the bill, as Perry has pointed out, making the bill uncontroversial at the time. (Note: as a California lawmaker from 2004 to 2010, I consistently voted against expanding benefits to illegal immigrants.)

Today, 12,138 illegal immigrant students pay in-state tuition in Texas, about one percent of all Texas college students. By comparison, the Department of Homeland Security estimates that 7.0% of Texas residents are in the nation illegally.

Gov. Perry has pointed out more than once, and with a degree of exasperation, that Texas has spent $400 million of its own taxpayers’ money on border security, hiring additional Texas Rangers to better secure the border. Perry has also defended his insistence that a fence not be built along the entirety of Texas’ 1,969 mile border with Mexico, citing the fact that a river runs along the border through some very remote and rugged terrain that is best secured with “boots on the ground” and “aviation assets.” I have to agree with Perry on this one, building a fence along a river is costly while the river itself will constantly undermine the fence’s footings. In addition, Gov. Perry’s Texas has passed a law that requires a photo ID to vote (only 13 other states have photo ID laws on the books) and illegal immigrants cannot obtain a driver’s license in Texas (11 states issue driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, including Sarah Palin’s Alaska).

Dismissing Texas’ own border security efforts, Perry’s opponents have focused on the in-state tuition, calling the law a magnet for illegal immigration. Theoretically, that’s true. But does it actually impact an illegal immigrant’s decision about what state they may decide to live in? I find it hard to believe a 22-year-old man from central Mexico is going to say to himself, “Hey, I’m going to move to California or Texas because, when my two children become college age in 17 years, I can save some tuition money.” Rather, the decision to break U.S. law more likely comes down to the availability of jobs and the seriousness with which the Federal government secures the border.

To test this proposition, it is instructive to see where illegal immigrants live in the U.S. According to the Department of Homeland Security, the largest illegal immigrant population by state in 2010 was:

California: 2,570,000

Texas: 1,770,000

Florida: 760,000

Illinois: 490,000

Arizona: 470,000

Georgia: 460,000

New York: 460,000

North Carolina: 390,000

New Jersey: 370,000

Nevada: 260,000

As one would expect, larger states have larger illegal immigrant populations, and larger states on the border with Mexico have an even larger illegal immigrant population.

But, how do these statistics compare to the size of the state? What percentage of the state’s population is composed of illegal immigrants?

Nevada: 9.6% illegal

Arizona: 7.4% illegal

Texas: 7.0% illegal

California: 6.9% illegal

Georgia: 4.7% illegal

New Jersey: 4.2% illegal

North Carolina: 4.1% illegal

Florida: 4.0% illegal

Illinois: 3.8% illegal

New York: 2.4% illegal

National average: 3.5% illegal

Next, let’s compare the state’s system of welfare benefits to illegal immigrants as well as the state’s in-state tuition policy.

Nevada: 9.6% illegal; low welfare, no in-state tuition

Arizona: 7.4% illegal; low welfare, no in-state tuition

Texas: 7.0% illegal; low welfare, in-state tuition

California: 6.9% illegal; high welfare, in-state tuition

Georgia: 4.7% illegal; low welfare, no in-state tuition

New Jersey: 4.2% illegal; high welfare, no in-state tuition

North Carolina: 4.1% illegal; low welfare, no in-state tuition

Florida: 4.0% illegal; low welfare, no in-state tuition

Illinois: 3.8% illegal; high welfare, in-state tuition

New York: 2.4% illegal; high welfare, in-state tuition

This analysis tells us that the states with the highest percentage of illegal immigrants, Nevada and Arizona, don’t use many state resources to assist them while Illinois, with an average number of illegal immigrants, and New York, with a below-average number of illegal immigrants, are the most generous. Thus, data suggests that state assistance to illegal immigrants isn’t much of a magnet. Other factors must be at work here.

Demand for labor is the driver, with illegal immigrants concentrating in the construction, hospitality, and agriculture sectors. Until recently, both Nevada and Arizona were experiencing housing booms and 27% of Nevada workers labor in the hospitality industry. On the other end of the ledger, both New York and Illinois experienced very little population growth; therefore, saw few construction jobs relative to other states.

Lastly, it’s interesting to compare these states’ tax policies to their illegal immigration populations:

The Tax Foundation’s 2011 State Business Tax Climate Index ranks the states with the largest illegal immigrant population as follows:

Nevada: 9.6% illegal; 4th most-competitive tax policy

Arizona: 7.4% illegal; 34th most-competitive tax policy

Texas: 7.0% illegal; 13th most-competitive tax policy

California: 6.9% illegal; 49th most-competitive tax policy

Georgia: 4.7% illegal; 25th most-competitive tax policy

New Jersey: 4.2% illegal; 48th most-competitive tax policy

North Carolina: 4.1%; 41st most-competitive tax policy

Florida: 4.0% illegal; 5th most-competitive tax policy

Illinois: 3.8% illegal; 23rd most-competitive tax policy

New York: 2.4% illegal; 50th most-competitive tax policy

Perhaps it isn’t a coincidence that Nevada, the state with the most attractive business tax policy on the list, has the highest percentage of illegal immigrants, while New York, the state with the worst tax policies in the entire nation, would have the fewest illegal immigrants as a percentage of its population.

It shouldn’t be a shock to conservatives that, just like the wealthy, illegal immigrants respond to state taxes and the impact those taxes have on the economy.

Perhaps if Governor Perry worked to pass a Texas state income tax, the illegal immigrant population there would plummet (of course, he’d have an even bigger challenge in winning the Republican nomination as a tax-hiker).

This brings us to a final observation. Other than raising taxes to the bone-crushing New York level, just how much can a state do in the realm of illegal immigration, a basic Federal responsibility? The answer appears to be not much, given Arizona’s high-profile efforts at curbing illegal immigration and given that Arizona’s per capita illegal immigrant population is greater than that of all states except Nevada.

Having served as a governor is excellent preparation for being President. That said, a governor has different responsibilities than does a President.

Rather than focusing on what education bill Perry signed into law in 2001, Republicans should be more concerned about what policies their prospective nominee has today on immigration, both legal and illegal. Do they approve of an amnesty on the scale of the 1986 amnesty that many Reagan Administration veterans later viewed as a huge error? Do they want to change an H-1B visa program that business sees as a way to keep technical labor costs down but that many highly-skilled American workers see as undermining their ability to earn a good living? How do they propose to better secure the border, and can they do it without eroding Americans’ liberty? These are proper questions for those who would be President and the sooner we can move beyond “gotcha” debate moments and into substantive policy discussion, the better.


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1 posted on 09/27/2011 2:51:26 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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2 posted on 09/27/2011 2:52:18 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

3 posted on 09/27/2011 2:54:24 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in.)
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4 posted on 09/27/2011 2:55:53 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: smoothsailing

Great post Smoothsailing! Thank you for a moment of sanity.


5 posted on 09/27/2011 2:59:11 PM PDT by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: smoothsailing
Perhaps he should try as Governor to remove the illegals
and then run again in 2016?


6 posted on 09/27/2011 2:59:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: smoothsailing

“we can move beyond “gotcha” debate moments”

The suggestion that Perry called us heartless racists because he was caught by a “gotcha” question is idiotic, and a desperate attempt to rescue Rick Perry from the reality of who he is.

These were no “gaffes.” They were said clearly, deliberately, and with the aim of demonizing his conservative critics.

They were premeditated, rehearsed attacks, and they blew up in his face.

I’m glad he dropped the mask for all to see.

HEARTLESS!!!!! are we?????


7 posted on 09/27/2011 3:02:19 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: smoothsailing
Explain, what BS, the man says he supports taking tax payers money under threat of a gun and delights in spending it supporting illegals. What is to explain, socialism is what it is.
8 posted on 09/27/2011 3:02:53 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: smoothsailing
I trust Perry with the border more than anyone else. The others running have never dealt with the Mexico border as Perry has.

Rick Perry on the US Mexico Border with Greta Part 1
Rick Perry on the US Mexico Border with Greta Part 2

9 posted on 09/27/2011 3:05:36 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: smoothsailing

There is a 1982 Federal law that says our schools are available to all from K-12...status doesn’t matter.


10 posted on 09/27/2011 3:05:55 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: smoothsailing

http://www.migrationinformation.org/USfocus/display.cfm?ID=795


11 posted on 09/27/2011 3:08:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: smoothsailing

Thank you so much for all that data. Hopefully it finally get people to think rather than mislead.


12 posted on 09/27/2011 3:08:35 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s why 38 states have never pass any legislation on it. They have not legislated on the matter at all. What is not prohibited is allowed. So illegals in all these 38 states have in state tuition identical to regular legal American students.


13 posted on 09/27/2011 3:09:55 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: smoothsailing
to explain his record on illegal immigration as governor vs. what he proposes to do about it

Too late . . . he's already done it . . . He lost my vote . . . He can't possibly give me a good explanation for giving illegal aliens preferential treatment whereby American citizens from other states would have to pony up more money to go to Texas schools.

Game . . . set . . . match!

American citizens should NEVER take back seat to illegal aliens!

14 posted on 09/27/2011 3:13:29 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
And don't forget he said that we real conservatives don't want illegal aliens to get in-state tuition because of the “sound of their names.”

He played the race card as well as any liberal. Calling those who despise those who flout the law "heartless racists" has sunk his campaign as far as real conservatives are concerned and all he can do now is rely on his RINO cronies for financial and moral support.

15 posted on 09/27/2011 3:16:33 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: Sacajaweau; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; CowboyJay; Sea Parrot; ..
There is a 1982 Federal law that says our schools are available to all from K-12...status doesn’t matter.

8 U.S.C. § 1623 : US Code - Section 1623: Limitation on eligibility for preferential treatment of aliens not lawfully present on basis of residence for higher education benefits

a) In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident.

(b) Effective date
This section shall apply to benefits provided on or after July 1, 1998.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/14/II/1623

16 posted on 09/27/2011 3:16:33 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: smoothsailing; hocndoc

Thank you so much for this post. It is so nice to have all this information.

You are so right about politicians aversion to corrective action (just enforcing existing laws would give us some hope).

Perry had better think fast and talk slow on this one.

I love these looooooooooooooooooong campaigns!


17 posted on 09/27/2011 3:17:56 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: Diogenesis

Really and just HOW do you plan on him to do that?

since the FEDS Are in control of Immigration. Oh that’s right the Feds get a pass. Sell guns, refuse to deport illegals, give employers that hire illegals a pass.

This BS is getting old. You all seem to think Perry is GOD, and can do whatever he wants. Apparently the Obama model is ok with everyone.


18 posted on 09/27/2011 3:18:54 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Marty62
Are you kidding me...they have made up their minds with bias bs or just flat out lies against Perry...they can't be reasonable thinkers...otherwise what would they have to pound Perry with? I've learned to ignore them mostly. They are nothing more than trolls...which are disruptor's on whatever thread we post on Perry. I'm surprised FR allows this to take place!!! When comments of this sort are posted on Palin threads they are immediately removed.

Their behavior has turned more people off toward Sarah Palin which is a shame. I've had more people tell me this than you can imagine. So the saying of shooting yourself in the foot makes perfect sense.

19 posted on 09/27/2011 3:19:14 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield

Total Bull, there is not a state that does not define what is in state and out of state. Where in the hell did you pull such a stupid ideal out of. While perry was dancing with His pom poms I had to prove to the state, of choice, for my education that I had changed my home state while on active duty. Which was allowed for under the GI bill at the time. But you are saying that an illegal has the right to go to any school. BS.


20 posted on 09/27/2011 3:21:14 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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